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    Default Request suggestions on cheaper alternative for building outdoor storage

    Request suggestions on cheaper alternative for building outdoor storage

    Back, top and left n right sides are around 17 sqm.

    What inexpensive material should I use?
    Happy to trade my work for cost.

    The can only thing I can think of is cheaper(ish) plywood and paint.

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    Barry G. Sumpter
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    So just top and two side of corrugated iron or other material?
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    I built storage shed with roller door last year, and used corrugated iron.
    20210203_115641.jpeg

    It's inexpensive, super durable, looks great, and is easy to work with.
    Your design is basically a box with no front, you could just build a basic stud frame, then order the corrugated iron cut-to-size from a roofing supplier - they'll cut it millimetre perfect, exactly to your spec. And when I say 'spec', they'll work from a pencil sketch no problem. Then cover the corners and the frame opening with some custom flashing and call it done.

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    Wow!
    That does look good.

    Thanks heaps for the verbose response.
    Much appreciated.
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    Barry G. Sumpter
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    I would be concerned about the slope on the floor, which I assume is something already paved, appears to be about 360mm fall over the length. I would be putting some sort of reasonable slope on the top to allow water run off and prevent water seeping through the longitudinal seam between sheets. Roof should also extend beyond the end walls by a moderate amount to eliminate run off dribbling down inside walls. Agree that you need some form of structural frame (treated pine?) for the end walls and roof to have something to secure sheeting to. Probably three rows of screw fixings for end walls, fixing on average about 600mm rows for the top as you will have the sheet lap to tie down, particularly if exposed to wind and open fronted and with minimal fall along the roof.
    I used to be an engineer, I'm not an engineer any more, but on the really good days I can remember when I was.

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    How about Colorbond?

    A big sheet of that is only $17....COLORBOND Steel 1.79m Double Sided Fencing Infill Sheet - Domain - Bunnings Australia

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    Thanks Malb,
    I've been dealing with that drive way and garage slope for decades.

    Original post was for collecting data on what inexpensive material I should use.

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    In the middle of multiple projects.
    The lady has asked yet again for more storage she doesn't have to look at while in the kitchen.

    A number of very professional YouTube vids.
    Making it look way to easy.
    Discussing a minimum of 5° slope/pitch/fall(?).
    In my mind just giving the rain water a direction to flow.

    Preferably draining towards the garage.
    Being collected with the other rain water in the storm water drain grate and channel across the width of the garage.

    The blind is the end of the west side car port.
    The new sloped storage will fit in from that edge of brickwork.
    With only say 5 percent of the storage exposed to the storms from the west.
    So was planning on leaving the bottom of the west facing corrugation exposed.
    With barge lapping around the top edges.
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    Thanks WP,
    I did see that.
    Was going to ask if that is for fencing or for roofing as well.
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    Barry G. Sumpter
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    Also found a number of never used full corrugated sheets leftover from larger projects.
    Would it matter if the never used sheets had scratches on them?

    And vids
    Minimum Roof Pitch - ACR Roofing Melbourne - Roofing Melbourne
    How to: Install Corrugated Iron COLORBOND(R) or ZINCALUME(R) Roofing - YouTube
    How to: Install COLORBOND(R) BARGE CAPPINGS | Metal Roofing Online - YouTube
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    On scratches, I remember when installing the back yards fence, that Colorbond sold "touch up" paint as paint-pens and little cans.

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    Ahh, to smart.
    Thanks heaps.
    Thanks,
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    I believe the drop is adequate for the little exposure it will receive.
    Thanks Malb for being a number of steps ahead.
    I'm ready now to design the frame.

    Any further suggestions is certainly appreciated.
    No prob if not.
    Thanks,
    Barry G. Sumpter
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    Any problem using
    Mini Corrugated Iron?

    My frame
    Frame.jpg
    Thanks,
    Barry G. Sumpter
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    Hey Barry,

    Frame dimensions look okay, but it looks like you've got your timber studs and top/bottom plates oriented the wrong way.
    A stud frame is usually built with frame faces running perpendicular to the wall, and edges running parallel. You fix your cladding into the edge of the stud, not the face.
    Here's a pic that shows what I mean
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    70x35 MGP 10 Treated Pine will fine for this. I don't think you need the noggins that run between the studs at all. You're structure is pretty low, so the frame will be plenty strong without the noggins.

    There's heaps of vids on stud framing. I learned a lot from this guy, he's very thorough. Wood Stud Wall Framing - YouTube

    You might need to consider a drainage solution. Does water run down the driveway on that slope? Unless you manage it, it's just gonna seep right under the bottom plate on the high end, and come straight through. This might not matter to you since it's open fronted and everything is on wheels. The treated pine will be fine. There's a few easy ways to manage if you want/need to. The back of my shed needed something. I ended up cutting a channel into the concrete with an angle grinder, and had a custom drip edge made. I filled up the channel with construction adhesive, bottom of the drip edge goes in the channel. There's no water ingress whatsoever. Water running on the ground or down the external walls is naturally moved away from the structure when it hits the drip edge.

    Pic explains it much better than words.
    20201231_133030.jpg

    Mini Corrugated Iron is exactly the same, just a different profile. Will be no problem.

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    Absolute Champion!
    Many thanks!

    Roof studs are 3.4m long.
    Should I use noggins there?

    Also the good lady wife who is the client spotted my collection of timber.
    Lengths used for concrete framing and recovered.
    145 x 50 x 2400
    they bend if left in the weather
    should I consider using these?
    Will save around $150
    Thanks,
    Barry G. Sumpter
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