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    Default Review - Sherwood Pleated Filter Cartridge

    Hi all,

    Just posted a new review of the Sherwood 1 Micron Pleated Filter Cartridges.
    http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com/rev...atedfilter.htm

    Hope it helps.
    As always, comments/questions welcome.

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    I just received mine got 2 of the PFC-21220's... lotsa filter area!
    Only one problem... Im going to need to shift the dusty(3hp 4 bag) and mod the 6"pvc as the filters are 1250mm high and the top rings of the dusty are 1200 from the ground the dusty is at the back of a lean-too thats only 2100 high!
    Might build a small out house for the dusty, the only prob is cutting a 6~7" hole in the shed.
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    Thumbs up Pleated Filter

    Thanks Dean

    They look like a good idea to me, as I only have a bag filter I will order one (another brand) next week.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry72
    I just received mine got 2 of the PFC-21220's... lotsa filter area!
    Only one problem... Im going to need to shift the dusty(3hp 4 bag) and mod the 6"pvc as the filters are 1250mm high and the top rings of the dusty are 1200 from the ground the dusty is at the back of a lean-too thats only 2100 high!
    Might build a small out house for the dusty, the only prob is cutting a 6~7" hole in the shed.
    Harry, if you build an outhouse for the dusty then like me you don't really need the fine filters (in fact you will get better air flow with them) because you are exhuasting the very fine dust outside your shed. The photo below shows my setup when it was new some 5 months ago. Today it looks almost identical demonstrating that all the < 30 micron stuff that escapes the bags does not accumulate in the enclosure. Most of it just stays suspended in the air and gets blown away.


    Of course the pleated filters will still mean that you won't have to empty the bags as often.

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    Well got around to fitting these rather large puppys... definately need to build an outhouse for it!
    As you can see from the pic's its bloody tall, 2350 to be exact its only 700mm to the centre pitch height of my workshop. So unless I want to have it in the middle of the floor out it must go, Im laying the foundation pad tomorrow and start making the frame work.
    Im going to try and invert the whole motor/fan/ducting assembly, so its all at the top this will require reversing/swaping over of the outlet shrouds(where the bags attach). Then the whole assembly can hang from the frame work I'll make and the 6" duct from the workshop can come in straight without any bends.




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    That's gonna be one mean dust collecting machine!
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    Im curious about your setup Bob... so when you want to turn the thing on you have to wander outside to the leantos little door and flip the switch that I can see near the motor then walk back inside the shed?... or have you linked it to a power source inside the shed to save that walk? From what I see from the pic you have taken a pipe from the unit through the shed to the machine right? but and this is where Im confused by the pic you still have to walk outside to turn it on?

    Would you mind taking a closer clearer pic for me? I need to move mine outside but am as yet unsure of the setup to put it into that clear perspext idea looks good to me and heck I wouldnt have to buy another friggin shed!!

    Cheers
    Shane

    Yes those big muthas are on the next shopping list along with one of the large airfilter things that suspend from the roof along with sooooooooooo many other things!! Man I can feel a need to sell this place to feed my growing tool and woodbutchering collection addiction comin on :eek:
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    Default my Extractor

    I have put mine outside the shed - with the lead coming into an internal power point. I have also bought one of those remotes that operate the power ($30+) and now I have axcess to the dust extractor where - ever I am. One problem is that you sometimes put the remote down and can't find it easily

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    Harry my 4 bagger ended up like this
    http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...1&d=1155113411
    and started out like this
    http://burgess.barry.googlepages.com...ithFilters.JPG
    and then went to this
    http://burgess.barry.googlepages.com...eContinued.jpg

    I found that too much dust ended up in the filters so in the end I built a cyclone now no dust is found in the filters
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    It wont have any more dust in the PFC's than the bag filters did, these have cleaning paddles and are made from a strong synthetic material not paper.
    Cyclones ares very good but they do cost you a lot of flow(1/3~1/2 flow), my system is about on its limits in my workshop... this why I have changed to PFC's to gain a little extra flow.

    Im thinking about installing some 10mm bird wire mesh to stop any larger pieces from touching the PFC's, but I suspect it may clog after a while?

    I changed the lower bags too plastic ages ago, what did yours have?

    Did your original filter shrouds have a cone to force the flow/chips into the lower bag before venting out to the top bag filters?
    Today I've layed the concrete foundation pad and welded up 1/2 of the support frame today, plus I inverted and swaped over the filter shrouds the motor and fan fit just nicey inbetween the PFC's!
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    On special right now to Timbecons on-line email customers:

    Pleated Filter Cartidges

    Online Tool Reviews
    has just done a great review on our pleated filter cartridges. Read the review and pick one up for a great price. Special finishes 9 th September.
    PFC-1610 Was $164.90 now $124.90
    PFC-2610 Was $275.00 now $229.00
    PFC-21220 Was $389.00 now $299.00
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    They been that price since they got them in ages ago, this is the second batch!
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    So are you saying that their "Special" just a con job?
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    Harry I changed to plastic bags from the cloth ones. I have seen an improvement from the filter version and the two plastic bags to my existing system - I cannot detect any drop in suction with the cyclone as no dust goes near to the impellor. I used a backet of dust and timed how long it took to empty.
    I agree the the same amount of dust that used to go into the top bag goes into the filter but that too much for my liking.
    What is the square meterage of your filter area. Mine is 20m2 per filter.I used the palm of my hand and banged it against the filter to get the dust to drop into the lower bag.
    Now I get no visible dust in the filters and no large particles below the filters
    Barry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Dingo
    Im curious about your setup Bob.

    Would you mind taking a closer clearer pic for me? I need to move mine outside but am as yet unsure of the setup to put it into that clear perspext idea looks good to me and heck I wouldnt have to buy another friggin shed!!

    Cheers
    Shane
    Shane,

    1) DISCONNECT DC FROM POWER.
    Open up relay/switch on motor and record colours of wires and what connectors they are connected to.

    2) Get required length of 4 core wire (I actually used a sapre bit of trailer harness wire which was 7 core wire) and connect/solder appropriate spade electrical lugs to appropriate wires.

    3) Remove relay/switch and replace with bit of perspex with hole through which I pass 4 core wire (Photo 1). Pass 4 core wire and power cord through hole into shed.

    4) Inside shed (Photo 2). Construct switch housing as per photo and mount original relay switch, attached correctly coloured wires to relay switch. Plug power cord into spare powerpoint.

    5) To operate from inside shed. Turn on power point & press green button.

    NB: Dust everywhere. This is from using the router mill - that thing sprays dust everywhere!

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