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14th June 2013, 11:53 PM #1Member
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Roto hinges or equivalent to support two crossing/rotatable pieces of timber
Hi all - I hope I have the right forum - I am looking for something that will allow me to join two crossing pieces of timber but still allow the two pieces to move or pivot at the join e.g. on a suitcase rack for a bed-room. I have seen them called 'roto hinges' on another forum but they don't seem to be available in Australia?
Attached is an image indicating the join.
One could presumably use a thin round-head bolt inside an aluminium sleeve with a lock nut and washer on the other end end but that would't look too elegant.
I wonder if anyone can assist?
Many thanks, Sean
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15th June 2013, 03:10 PM #2
Couldn't you do it with a stainless steel pin say 6 or 7mm in lets say the outer leg and a socket on say the inside leg? that way you wouldn't see anything. Could also put a washer between the two legs to stop them rubbing the finish off one another. With accurate layout that should be easily achieved.
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15th June 2013, 03:53 PM #3
Your attached image looks as though they have just used a fixed dowel on the inner frame that is left to spin freely within the outer frame (short enough not to protrude through the outer face). Is this not ideal?
I imagine that the item will not be required to pivot constantly so wear shouldn't be a huge issue. Keeping it simple is normally the best option.
Craig
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15th June 2013, 08:39 PM #4
Googling Roto Hinge brings a range of images. Rockler and Lee Valley both have them available in the US, but for a couple of pairs you could probably make your own quicker than having them posted.
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15th June 2013, 09:17 PM #5Member
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many thanks for comments and ideas to date. However I had hoped there would be some no-brainer option without having to fashion something (which in my case may or may not work!)
Sean
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17th June 2013, 03:55 PM #6New Member
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Bolt 2 washers and a nylock nut.
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17th June 2013, 04:39 PM #7Member
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I was in Bunnings on the weekend and had a look at their range of wooden folding chairs - they used some sort of flat brass nut with a type of hex key opening for tightening at the pivot join where the legs crossed and folded (I should have taken a photograph on my mobile and posted it here) - they seemed quite common and made a neat, flush finish whereas something like a nyloc nut would stand proud of the joint quite a bit - can't imagine one can't get them somewhere in Aus!
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20th June 2013, 12:32 AM #8
look at the hardware used by Lee Valley for these chairs
Veritas® "Adirondack Plus" Folding Chair Plan - Lee Valley Tools
you should be able to buy the stainless bolts, nuts and washers here in AUSregards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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21st June 2013, 04:54 AM #9Member
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Thanks Ian, those, suitably adapted, look like a very good option. The lock nuts on the inside would not be too obvious either.
In the meantime I did order some roto hinges from Australian Woodsmith - Hardware For Sale so will provide an update on those when they arrive. The are shown on their site and are the same ones another member mentioned in an earlier post.
I also found I got some more promising search results searching under 'hinges for folding chairs' or similar. Regards Sean
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