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13th July 2007, 10:47 AM #1
Sanding varnished weatherboards - belt or 1/3 sheet sander?
Ok, I"m fed up of trawling through searches... So I'm just going to ask instead.
I need to sand off an exterior wall of varnished boards for a customer. Wall is about 6m x 6m, so not a particularly small job. Varnish is weathered enough that most of it will need to be sanded back to bare wood. I've got a $25 cheap and nasty 1/3 sheet sander that I use for small stuff, but I'm wondering whether a belt sander would be a better idea.
Since its clear that a belt sander will remove more material more quickly, the question is whether I'll end up with a wall covered in sanding marks which'll need sanding off with the small sander anyway. Its safe to assume that all the boards are warped, so if won't be a flat surface
I figure the belt sander will use the paper more efficiently too.
The other point is weight -comparing weights, the makita 1/3 sheet sander is less than 2kg, whereas the belt sander I was looking at in Bunnies for about $200 is only a sliver under 6kg (http://www.makita.com.au/product.asp?ContentID=9910sp), and I'm going to be holding it up in the air for a few hours!Cheers, Richard
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13th July 2007, 10:59 AM #21/16"
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Personally I would use both,
The belt to remove material fast and the 1/3 for finishing and getting into tight spots where the belt could do damage.
Beware of the edge of the belt which could cut into the edge of the timber where it laps.
As another thought, how about a scraper. The pull handle type.Don't force it, use a bigger hammer.
Timber is what you use. Wood is what you burn.
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Ya what would rip it off quicker? A fine wire cup/brush in an angle grinder, but you would have to test first and you would have to go in the grain direction not across. You will have to wear eye/face protection cause the wires do break off.
And then sand.
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13th July 2007, 11:22 AM #4
Initially I was going to agree with Rat52- but after a bit of quiet reflection I think that the belt sander may be too heavy and not really made for using vertically so you may find it too tireing- it depends on your upper body strength.
I hate useing tools above my head for too long so I would be going as light weight as possible, even thinking about using my cordless detail sander with an 80 grit paper on it to start the process and just using the 1/3 sheet for a final smooth.
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13th July 2007, 12:05 PM #5
What about a 150mm ROS sander with a 7mm orbit, such as the Milwaukee (Trade tools in Brisbane)? Would this be coarse enough?
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13th July 2007, 12:19 PM #6
I have seen painters use a angle grinder with a disc that looks like a sanding disk but isn't, seems to be some sort of lightweight metal disc with grit adhered to it. Might pay to check out some paint shops. Was very quick and left a pretty good surface ready for painting/varnishing
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13th July 2007, 05:59 PM #7
Something like this: http://www.tradetools.com.au/ProdVie...oduct=J3218-T2
I've got a really cheap grinder (crazy clarkes!) so If you can get the attachment I might use that. The more I think about holding 6kg up for more than 2 minutes the worse it seems! I did this customers garage door with the 1/3 sheet sander and it just uses metres of paper. I think I'll go and investigate the grinder option. Makita have a nice looking one: http://www.makita.com.au/product.asp?ContentID=sa7000c Its still 3.2kg though, whereas a 'normal' angle grinder http://www.makita.com.au/product.asp?ContentID=9553nbk . is only 1.4kg so maybe its time I upgraded my angle grinder, and then use a sanding disc on it. Of course it'll take longer with a 100mm wheel instead of a 180mm wheel.Cheers, Richard
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13th July 2007, 06:40 PM #8
Top choice is a panel beaters sander with 7" discs
or a long way to 2nd place is a ROS
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25th July 2007, 11:00 PM #9
Ok, here's what I did...
Bought a Makita 115mm angle grinder (cos I"ve been angling for one for a few years) and a backing pad and sanding disks. I also bought a decent dust mask and goggles which I've needed a reason to buy for a while.
Initially some marks from an overenthusiastic grinder, but with a bit of practice, developed a technique which left the surface smooth as, maybe not a babys butt, but good enough for an exterior surface - like all pleasures, its all in the stroking...
So, very fast surface removal - straight through the varnish and back to bare wood. Very messy, and a fair amount of work to control, but a 115mm grinder isn't too heavy to hold for longish periods of time.
The wall looks great, much better than just a surface sanding and varnish over old varnish. Customer is very happy, which is great too.Cheers, Richard
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26th July 2007, 09:49 AM #10
Well done, its good to hear about wins, its usually our stuff ups that we talk about.
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