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12th July 2021, 07:23 PM #31GOLD MEMBER
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12th July 2021, 07:39 PM #32
It could simply be a drop of sweat in the wrong place at the wrong time? Who knows?
How can one say conclusively what "caused the brake to actuate unexpectedly?"
Have a read of the 124 page manual - so many caveats about what not to do, or what may "cause the brake to actuate unexpectedly!"
Manual_PCS_300_2.pdf (sawstop.com) USA Version.
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13th July 2021, 08:31 AM #33GOLD MEMBER
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13th July 2021, 10:17 AM #34Woodworking mechanic
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They would want to, for what you pay!
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13th July 2021, 09:38 PM #35Senior Member
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I wonder how an extremely humid environment ( Cairns for example ) would effect a Sawstop. Would the near 100% humidity for a good portion of the year cause constant brake firings?
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14th July 2021, 03:29 PM #36GOLD MEMBER
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17th July 2021, 08:50 AM #37rrich Guest
We still need to know what caused the witness marks on the saw blade. If that was the cause, we can see the blade dropped in about 1/4 revolution.
Please let us know the actual cause.
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17th July 2021, 04:12 PM #38
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17th July 2021, 06:19 PM #39Woodworking mechanic
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Not quite. The blade is dropping.
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27th July 2021, 09:05 AM #40rrich Guest
So what caused those witness marks?
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24th November 2021, 07:01 AM #41New Members
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4 misfires
I realise I am reviving an old thread here but I have this problem too. I’m a member of a northern NSW Mens Shed where we have had 4 misfires in about 6 months of light use despite extreme caution and lots of use of the override and a moisture meter. Carbatec Brisbane who we bought the saw from have been less than helpful despite sending them the fired cartridges and calling them multiple times, certainly no free replacements. Did you get free replacements yourself or was it something you heard about? Can you please tell me who you dealt with (pm me if you prefer). We have had to stop using the saw as it is not fit for purpose. I definitely would not recommend either Sawstop or Carbatec given our experience of their customer service so far.
If the OP sees this, could they let us know if they got their problem fixed?
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24th November 2021, 10:41 AM #42GOLD MEMBER
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Yep i got all mine my self.
Carbatec sent me a form, filled that out and sent my cartridge off to them. They assessed it and sent back a new one.
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24th November 2021, 01:03 PM #43
The "unintended" actuation of the saw stop cartridges seem to be common enough to be a significant factor in making an informed purchasing decision.
As a potential customer I believe that Sawstop and its agents should be more transparent about "unintended actuation" as it is as significant as the claimed benefits of the technology in the decision making process.
The whole premise of the saw stop argument and similar technology is to keep people safe & uninjured. Anyone who has had reasonable training in hazard management knows that elimination of hazards is the primary goal and that for engineered controls like the saw stop technology to be effective they must have KISS functionality. They also know that any safety system that relies upon high levels of user skill and knowledge to use effectively is unsound in hazard management. The mere fact that the technology can be over ridden on a whim makes it unsound.
Yes, the engineering is functional, however, and it is a very big however, it requires a considerable level of user skill and training to use the technology effectively and economically.
I've read the manual and am gobsmacked by the complexity of instructions and how "managers" of communal facilities such as clubs and Men's Shed's manage that training and more importantly compliance.Mobyturns
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24th November 2021, 01:27 PM #44
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24th November 2021, 02:41 PM #45GOLD MEMBER
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It's interesting to note the contrast between the accommodation havabeer (an individual owner user) and Pajo (at a communal user site) got from the same sales and service outlet (Carbatec Brisbane). Does Carbatec's policy vary depending on how many individual users a machine has? If there is no support for misfirings the ownership equation can apparently become very expensive, and this after you've paid a healthy margin over similar quality products, without the technology, to begin with.
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