Will Screwing Into End Grain Be Alright?

**chambezio** · 1st June 2012, 11:04 PM

Maaaate!
15mm timber will be fine to screw into. But 65mm X 10#? Way too heavy for the size. I would not use a screw bigger than 8#, but no matter what screws you use, make sure you drill clearance holes with counter sunk for the screw heads,through the sides. Then to receive the screw into the end grain drill a hole equivalent to the screw minus the thread. By doing this you are proving a path for the screw and enough friction for the screw to bit into the end grain.
So, I am suggesting you using
* 50mm X 8# screws (either chip board or long treads- these look like a self tapping screw for sheet metal)
* With your timber sides 350mm wide I would put 5 screws in starting 25mm in from the ends and the rest spaced equally (only for looks)
*Do use PVA glue and a damp rag to remove the excess.
*With the bottom you can employ the same method and screw the bottom over the sides (that will be simple and with the screws strong too)
*What about the top? Is there one? Or will the box be open? Or will you want to hinge it?
I hope these suggestions are clear enough for you to successfully execute your first box

**SAISAY** · 2nd June 2012, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by abrogard

I know so little about the whole carpentry/building scene I don't know what that is: '..timber angle like builders use...' (Ever thought of asking in the shop?)

And I think maybe it is not relevant, really. All I asked about was screwing into end grain.

Whoa
No need to bite the head off someone who is trying to help you find a different solution

Mate, I bow out gracefully
Wolffie

**Ball Peen** · 2nd June 2012, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by mic-d

Screws in endgrain may be a problem. If you want to use screws do this: in the board where screws will enter the endgrain mark the positions of the screws, then a distance back from the end (say 1/2") drill holes through the side of the boards at each screw station and insert a dowel. The dowel provides a bit of long grain for the screw to enter. Alternatively you could just skew nail it all.

I would go with the glued and skew nailed. Much easier to tidy up with a bit of bog and plenty strong. Rebated, glued and skew nailed for the deluxe version. On to the next one !

**pal** · 2nd June 2012, 08:34 AM

Forget the screws and go with a half lap joint and just use glue that will hold no problems at all.

Harold

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