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19th May 2011, 03:43 PM #1New Member
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Senco Fusion F15 15GA for face nailing 21mm tongue and groove into 70/35
I am looking at buying a Senco Fusion F15.
The job is to reline quite a few walls with tongue and groove.
I want to face nail 50mm 15 gauge nails through the tongue and groove into 70/35 studs.
Has anyone used a Senco Fusion F15 for this sort of work?
Am I on the right track?
It seems to me that it would be ideal for me as I don't have a compressor or a nail gun and it would end up being much cheaper than going to the expense of getting a compressor and an air gun.
Also, I have seen that these are selling for about $780ish in Australia but are readily available for about $400 in the US. Given the dollar at the moment, it seems that we are getting fleeced a bit here.
Thanks in advance.
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19th May 2011, 05:11 PM #2Senior Member
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No you are not. You asked the same question in a previous thread and were given several good alternatives to what you proposed then.
If you use a finishing gun on paneling into the centre groove the tendency is to use the gun in the vertical mode...this will place the 'T' of the nail across the groove and is difficult to fill neatly....a lot of work, not to mention the cost of the gun. If you try using a finishing gun at an angle through the the tongue, you face the same problems I pointed out to you in the previous thread.
You were advised in one post to consider a staple gun through the tongue...if you insist on a mechanical option, they are available in an electrical unit but check they will drive the the required length of staple....20-25mm should be ample at an angle through the tongue.Last edited by ravna; 19th May 2011 at 05:16 PM. Reason: Add
Cheers...........John M
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19th May 2011, 05:23 PM #3New Member
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Yes, and it was terrific advice for secret nailing.
However, I have decided to face nail instead of secret nailing.
I have hunted down the correct nails for this purpose, ie face nailing, from Timber Queensland Limited in their Technical Data Sheet for Timber Panelling (50mm x 1.8).
I have then hunted down what tool options are available to drive those nails and have worked out that a DA bradder is what is required.
I am now trying to narrow the tool selection down to ensure I get the best tool to suit my circumstances. Ie, if there is something more practical for me then buying a compressor and gun then it seems to be a good option to explore.
It is with this in mind that I am interested in knowing whether blokes who know what they are doing have been happy with the Senco Fusion as this appears to be the right tool for me.
It's a fair question to ask isn't it?
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19th May 2011, 05:34 PM #4New Member
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Ravna, can see how my initial post caused some confusion, when I said "through the tongue and groove", I meant 2 nails through the face of the board, not through the joint as in secret nailing. My poor wording ...
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19th May 2011, 06:03 PM #5Senior Member
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Thats OK....but what I said above is still a valid consideration and I still think you would be better of secret nailing either with hammer and nail or a staple gun.
To nail through the centre groove can give the finished wall a wavy effect because a lot of the paneling tends to cup to the groove side.Cheers...........John M
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19th May 2011, 07:09 PM #6SENIOR MEMBER
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However you descide to go, keep the lifespan in mind, and how often you'll use it. Often times these wonderful new tools will sit in their box after the job is done and rarely get used again, and when you do, gaskets / orings / seals expand and contract and perish over time. Next time you grab it.....
For me for now $400 is a lot of dough to have sitting unused when the jobs done, and moreso if i have to rebuilt or replace it down the track. I only buy what i know i will use often, if a problem arrises i know i can fix it asap, and i'm onto it fast because i use it often.
Consider hiring the equipment you need, i just looked up kenards and while its only one example it would be more cost efficient to hire what you need, sure it locks you into a timeframe but if you manage your work it gets it done.
as an aside, hire places are a good source of info for tool life, and serviceability.
I looked at the nailer you quoted on the senco website, it looks flash and new tech, is there an australian agent, as in if it travels all the way from the states and saves you a little cash (allowing postage and shipping) if it arrives dammaged or broke what time delay will you have? is that a consideration?
Neal.
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19th May 2011, 09:05 PM #7New Member
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Thanks fellas, much appreciated.
I am hearing what you are saying Neal. Good advice. I have a flash circular saw that cost a bundle and got plenty of use cutting larger timber for a week or so when I was building a patio, that was over a year ago and it hasn't done much since then ...
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