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26th September 2008, 02:27 PM #1zelk
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Shaping chair seats
Hi there,
I am about to shape or hollow a chair seat and am keen to know what people prefer to use for the task. I am actually making a couple of stools out out kauri pine (old floorboard offcuts) for my little boys.
Zelk
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26th September 2008, 02:48 PM #2SENIOR MEMBER
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Some ways I have seen it done:
1 if you have a good eye.... use a disk sander (I have done this one my self and is a safer procedure) Draw the outline and depth on the seat and sand it out.
2.some use a saw... need to be careful no missing fingers please!
ie set a radial arm or scms to just cut the surface and push the blank under it sideways to start the hollow. then lower it a bit and do it again (and again) until you get the right depth. then finish off with a sander. I guess you could set up a frame and do the same thing on a table saw too. Maybe even a circular saw?
Cheers,
Chipman
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26th September 2008, 05:03 PM #3
Traditionally an adze, scorp, inshave and round-bottomed plane were used to hollow seats and, other than the plane, they were a right pain in the proverbial too.
Technology has advanced considerably and the best tools I've used for the purpose are an Arbortech (chainsaw disc) mounted on an angry grinder followed by, as Chipman said, various grades of sanding discs (again, mounted on the angry grinder).
If you can find an old round-bottomed (squirrel-tail) plane, it would make a good job of it after using the Arbortech. Actually, I think Kuntz may make a round-bottomed plane (not the compass plane). I know I've seen new ones somewhere recently..
I know you believe you understand what you think I wrote, but I'm not sure you realize that what you just read is not what I meant.
Regards, Woodwould.
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26th September 2008, 06:19 PM #4
I've done all the above, but also used a good carving gouge on one as well. As it was a chunk of old Euc. it was an exercise in patience!
Good luck.Andy Mac
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26th September 2008, 06:57 PM #5
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26th September 2008, 10:43 PM #6
use a router mate
definitely the fastest, u can actually make a jig that will support the router when doing it, read it on fine woodworking magazine but forgot how it looked
will get back on you when i find it
cheersH.S.
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27th September 2008, 04:32 PM #7
I drew depth contours on the seat and then used a router with a 1/2" spiral upcut bit to rout away most of the waste. I then used a chisel to remove most of the remaining waste, followed by a random-orbit sander. The angle-grinder method is probably quicker, but more hazardous.
Rocker
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27th September 2008, 08:21 PM #8
Sam Malouf uses a bandsaw -fascinating to watch - but scary
John
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27th September 2008, 09:24 PM #9.
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This thread is one way i have done it http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...3&postcount=73
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27th September 2008, 10:19 PM #10China
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As Woodwould said Arbortech and sanding disks works for me
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27th September 2008, 11:28 PM #11
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27th September 2008, 11:38 PM #12zelk
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Many thanks to those that replied to the thread, there are clearly many ways to tackle this job.
For speed, power carving seems like the way to go. As Woodwould pointed out, the use of handtools is tedious but I would imagine that there would be less chance of error. The hand tools that caught my attention were the cheap Carbatec Spoon plane http://www.carbatec.com.au/carving-t...ec-spoon-plane and the expensive
Veritas pullshave, http://www.carbatec.com.au/carving-t...itas-pullshave.
As far as power carving is concerned, I note the Abortech options http://www.carbatec.com.au/carving-t...ng-tools-tools and the Sabur tooth rotary tool options http://www.cws.au.com/cgi/index.cgi/..._id=1107144909 . If I go down the power carving path, is the resultant finish rough and does it require plenty of sanding.
As the task of carving a stool seat is all new to me, is there much of a learning curve to power carving?
Regards,
Zelk
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27th September 2008, 11:49 PM #13
Even the Abortech discs are capable of remarkably fine work, but ultimately you'll need to follow up with a plastic backing pad and consecutively finer sanding discs with final sanding being done by hand and with the grain.
I like the look of those Saburr Tooth discs. I wonder what grit the fine one is equivalent to..
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Unless you are skilled and used to working with Abortech discs, they are a waste of time on chair seats, especially when cutting into soft Kauri
Just use a ROS and 40#
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28th September 2008, 12:28 AM #15zelk
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Lignum,
I actually have the Festool ROS 125 but didn't think of using it since timber to a depth of 20mm will be removed. I was hoping to use it for the final sand.
Would you consider a Rotex or a Rotary Sander RAS 115.04 http://www.festool.com.au/mediandowe...69&AKTIVPROD=1 ,
the dust collection is appealing.
Zelk
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