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    Default The silliest little sandpaper folding tip

    I got this simple tip from the boss on a short contracting job a few years ago and....ahh gee...I dunno...I just like it

    If you're hand sanding with just paper (no block), tear off your usual bit (mine is around 80-120 mm long from a roll depending on the task) and fold it over evenly into thirds so that one third is in the middle and covered by the last third.

    It makes for a pretty sturdy piece of paper that won't crumple but is still flexible, that is easy to refresh by turning around, flipping to the other side and/or refolding so the un-used third comes into play. It can provide a fresh sharp edge for cutting into tight corners while also attending the flats. It can fit in the palm of your hand/fingers for sanding biggish roundovers.

    I've found that I have less wastage of sandpaper, less "grip" fatigue, and in particular situations, a quicker/better finish than using just flat paper, one fold or a sheet folded in quarters, or making up edge or corner sanding "files".

    *shrug* That's an awful lot of text for something so utterly stupid

    Anyone have any other suggestions for plain paper technique? Let's fight it out...mine's the best

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    That's exactly how I do mine.
    I even think I stumbled across to by myself.
    I also split A4 size size sheets in half lengthwise and fold into 1/4'ers

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    Another tip if you don't like sand paper
    Is don't become a panel beater spray painter
    Nothing beats it on a cold winter day hand rubbing a whole car down with 2500/3000/4000 grit paper (between costs of paint so say three four plus times) that's one weeks work

    Now that is fun

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    We've been doing the thirds fold since forever at work. I just assumed that's how everyone did it.

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    Simplicity: That sounds like the best sanding tip ever!! The horror!!
    Every time you make a typo, the errorists win.

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    Default The Paper.

    Hi All,
    Nobody has said which Paper? they use.
    I use Hermes 406 J Flex, from 80G through to 400G.
    This is Blue with a Yellow Cloth Back, Approx $4.20 1M roll.
    Then I go to the best you will ever use, Portuguese; Indasa Rhino Wet Redline, from 240G - 1200G.
    Apparently the QLDers use this in the Car Repair Shops.
    Vic's use 3M.
    The J Flex I string out on a Cable Tie, & it is all in Grit Line, & I don't have to go looking for those odd bits, pieces being 100 x 100mm. & yes, I fold it into 3, what other way wood you use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by issatree View Post
    Hi All,
    Nobody has said which Paper? they use.
    I use Hermes 406 J Flex, from 80G through to 400G.
    This is Blue with a Yellow Cloth Back, Approx $4.20 1M roll.
    Then I go to the best you will ever use, Portuguese; Indasa Rhino Wet Redline, from 240G - 1200G.
    Apparently the QLDers use this in the Car Repair Shops.
    Vic's use 3M.
    The J Flex I string out on a Cable Tie, & it is all in Grit Line, & I don't have to go looking for those odd bits, pieces being 100 x 100mm. & yes, I fold it into 3, what other way wood you use it.
    +1 for Indasa Redline, but I have to say the Hermes stuff is, without a doubt, the WORST sandpaper I have ever used

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    Old methods never die. Taught to me by my Dad 50 years ago along with other helpful advice. He would be 101 if still alive. I miss our chats. I'm sure your tip will be picked up by the young ones.


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    Thumbs up

    Indasa Redline is great paper. I have managed to get some here from the Inspirations paint shop
    but they are no longer going to stock it!!!!

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    The manual Arts teacher taught us that at high school woodwork back in the early 70s.
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    Probably a bit off topic but others have suggested their favorites. I find this stuff to be the best for using on those inertia and power sanders for woodturning. Seems to hold its cutting edge forever. I just buy it by the metre and punch out circles to fit the sanders I have. I haven't checked to see if it comes in non velcro backed yet.
    Seems like these guys are the Australian agent for Redline. http://indasa.com.au/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treecycle View Post
    Probably a bit off topic but others have suggested their favorites. I find this stuff to be the best for using on those inertia and power sanders for woodturning. Seems to hold its cutting edge forever. I just buy it by the metre and punch out circles to fit the sanders I have. I haven't checked to see if it comes in non velcro backed yet.
    Seems like these guys are the Australian agent for Redline. http://indasa.com.au/
    We used SIA abrasives extensively in our metal polishing factory, they are first rate.

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    Just don't fold the sandpaper sheets into quarters. If you do, two gritty faces will be against each other, and will wear the 'edge' off each other before you get to use them! The 'thirds' idea is perfect.

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    I like folding my sand paper the same way , I remember being taught that at a young age by my Dad .
    folding a sheet down the length and then parting it and then again into quarters is also the right size for a cork .

    Its a funny thing to be discussing, probably because its a day one of woodwoking lesson, But why not ??
    plenty of day one'rs around here

    Another thing I was shown was to condition the paper before folding, not always necessary on fine paper or all papers .
    Good on 120 80 and 60 grit at times.

    It helps in folding clean straight lines and when the paper is folded and ready to use , a conditioned piece when grabbed by each side and brought together can give nice fine even radius's for sanding in tight cove mouldings, or flutes on legs.

    To condition it, the paper is drawn across firmly across an Arris ( The sharp edge formed by the intersection of two edges) the unworn edge of a work bench top or a new part of the table or cabinet being worked on. Or a machine top .

    I pull it hard over the edge , the grit facing up , the part coming off the top is being pulled down at 45 degree's or more , and its done twice the second pass 90 degrees off the first pass , so its been traversed.

    Then I fold it into three.

    These three way folded pieces of sand paper have another good use . they work as anti slip pads when clamping wood to machinery . Two places I find myself looking for them is when clamping stop blocks to the jointer table . A situation where I want to drop timber down onto a spinning buzzer blade, which may be spinning 8mm above the front and back table, and I want to make sure the stop block wont move backwards at all . there is usually two or three bits of folded paper under a sturdy block 400 x 150 x 75mm with two or three clamps directly over them

    The other is, sometimes when clamping wood into a chisel mortiser table, and the wood wants to come up when the chisel comes up .
    Actually I used to do this a bit many years ago but then I learned how to prepare a new square chisel before use, and I no longer really needed it for that after that. I forget who taught me that one?? sorry ??? .

    Ask me if you need the info on square chisel prep and I will pass it on. It works good.

    Rob

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    Default Worst Sandpaper ??????.

    Hi to All & elanjacobs,
    I have been using Hermes 406 J Flex since before you were born.
    Could you inform us all, why you think it is the worst paper you have ever used.

    I use to sell this Hermes back in the 1990's, I got a bit long in the tooth & Jim Carroll came along.

    I have tried lots of different makes, but I still come back to my Hermes.
    Regards,
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