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  1. #16
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    Rich, my response was clearly in reply to his list of three that he could afford.

    A more complete list would read: Ozito, Harbor Freight, other no-name brands, GMC, Ryobi, DeWalt. Makita, Bosch, Milwaukee, Hitachi, Festool Kapex.

    Even that list is incomplete and does not reflect different models, it's very general.

    However, the original poster gave a price range and those three fit within it. Second hand items were not considered but may be an option too.

    As for a circular saw never being as good as an SCMS, this is no longer true. Have a look at the reviews of the Festool circ saw and guide. Some experienced woodworkers no longer use their tablesaws, let alone their SCMS.

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    Oh boy, oh boy, will we ever see the end of this? It is another chapter of a religious war, the "Cheap is good enough"s towards the "You spend less by paying more"s.

    The bottom line, and I challenge anybody to a debate on it, is:

    Establish your needs first. Buy what fulfils your needs.

    If in time your needs change, or your assessment of your needs change, repeat the process.

    Jonathan, this forum is an excellent way to obtain help for guiding you in the process. But it is no good to ask is A better than B. It is necessary to ask, as you in a way did: I need to do X, will the cheaper between A and B, the dearer or neither be able to do X?
    Groggy's first post is an example of what I'm talking about. Excellent to tell you what does what, immediately got heckles when ranking brands.

    Cheers

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    You can have my GMC 71/4 inch Circ saw used twice. That might tell you something..(!)

    PM me if interested.

    Have

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    Went and spent my Father's day voucher on a Bosch 7 1/4 circular saw. Makita, DeWalt and others were getting too expensive for me, but I decided I didn't want to go for the really cheap ones. Looked closely at a B&D and Ryobi, both a bit cheaper than the Bosch. But I get the impression the Bosch is a bit better quality. I also came with a 40T blade and is considerably lighter which I think my right arm will appreciate.

    I now also have a bit of cash left for a couple of cheap tools. There may be a GMC router or sander in my future.

    Thanks again for all the help. Now to start attacking some of those projects I have in the pipeline.

    jonathan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Groggy View Post
    A more complete list would read: Ozito, Harbor Freight, other no-name brands, GMC, Ryobi, DeWalt. Makita, Bosch, Milwaukee, Hitachi, Festool Kapex.
    I didn't realize that you blokes had the superb quality of Harbor Freight available! Considering Harbor Freight, that Ozito must really be something!

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    I'm with Eli on this one.

    A good tradesman never blames his tools. But you never see a good tradesman with crook tools.

    Colin Howkins
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    Quote Originally Posted by rrich View Post
    I didn't realize that you blokes had the superb quality of Harbor Freight available! Considering Harbor Freight, that Ozito must really be something!
    We don't have HF, but as I am familiar with them I dropped the name as a reference point for you. I think we can mail order HF though.

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    I'm thinking that if we did buy HF tools, they'd go out in the proverbial "blaze of glory".

    Something tells me 240V into a 120V tool will significantly shorten the lifetime, even Ozito would last a little longer than that
    Ray

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