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Thread: New square drive screws in Oz
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19th May 2008, 12:09 AM #1GOLD MEMBER
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New square drive screws in Oz
Today I was visiting my local Mitre 10 in Moorabbin, when I saw something that surprised me. Apart from organising some timber, I was also looking for some outdoor furniture screws, either stainless steel, or coated with something for weather resistance.
What surprised me was the array of square drive screws available, something I hadn’t seen before in a national chain hardware. There were plastic tubs of them galore.
I asked the staff about these. Their reply was that it’s a new line and it’s a product that they think will take off. At the cash register they had a large plastic covered display of drill bits designed to take the various sizes of many drive systems, including the 3mm and 1.5mm square drives in your cordless drill.
I have been using the Robertson square drive screws from Canada, for quite some time now, I believe they are quite alright and have been slowly moving towards them for more jobs.
This is an interesting development for screwing in Australia, but possibly a bad thing for the small business that imports the Robertson screws!
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19th May 2008, 07:15 PM #2
And for that reason I will continue to purchase my screws from Sachys Robertson in Vic.
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19th May 2008, 07:31 PM #3
I recently bought some of those and I'm not overly impressed.
The screws seem ok but the square drive bit supplied with them is rubbish - rounded off after about a dozen screws.
Oh, and watch when you buy them because it seems that some lowlifes are removing the drives from the blister packs. They come in small separate compartment in the bottom of the blister pack and out of 7 on the rack only one had the bit still in it.
Ian
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19th May 2008, 08:39 PM #4
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19th May 2008, 09:00 PM #5
I love them too, but like Ian, I've been really unimpressed with the bits. I think its partly because they take such a large force compared to a philips which will jump before it reaches the same amount of pressure.
Still if anyone can recommend a decent square drive bit I'd be really happy.Cheers, Richard
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19th May 2008, 09:59 PM #6SENIOR MEMBER
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I have no complaint with the square drive bits from Sachys, nor, for that matter, with the two long ones that came with my economy pocket hole jig.
Mitre10 Maroochydore have stocked Zenith square drive screws for a couple of years, but only countersunk and, I think, only #8ga. And when I checked they were a fair bit dearer than Robertson from Sachys.Brian
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19th May 2008, 10:06 PM #7
The ones I got with the Kregg work Fine for me.
Also,
The ones with the extra Boxes of Screws are OK as well.
Perhaps I am to easily pleased
Doubt itNavvi
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19th May 2008, 11:12 PM #8
I use mainly the bigger guages from Sachys with the 18v Hitachi bat drill and when it stops I sometimes finish them with a big heave on the hand driver and both the screws and the drivers hold and drive fantasticly.
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20th May 2008, 10:43 AM #9
We've been using the square drives (Robertsons) for many years in Canada; the bits that I use have never shown the wear problems stated in the above comments. They will wear, as any driver will, but not until a great number of screws have been driven.
One of the benefits is that the screw can be placed on the driver and held at any angle without danger of it falling off the driver thereby not having to use a second hand to hold the screw. For me that's a plus.
Try them, you may become addicted!
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20th May 2008, 11:46 AM #10GOLD MEMBER
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I also use Saschy's - no problems at all.
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20th May 2008, 11:48 AM #11
+1
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20th May 2008, 12:14 PM #12
+ another - Sachys are the duck's knuts (as Wild Dingo would say)
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20th May 2008, 06:19 PM #13Novice
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As a very amateur commentator, I was pretty impressed with the Zenith 75mm screws I just used for the frame of my bench. A pilot hole and a little bit of solid soap and they went in very smoothly, still using the original bit that came with them.
I was drilling into Tassie Oak and before I remembered the soap trick couldn't get the screws all the way in due to a short pilot hole (skinny bits not being available that long).
I bought them at Bunnings in Perth, they seemed to have a pretty wide range of square-drive including some mushroom head (as I vaguely recall).
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20th May 2008, 06:53 PM #14
Interesting thread guys,
I have a question, are Robertson screws not popular in Europe? I often get asked why Festool don't have square driver bits,
Plino
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20th May 2008, 07:04 PM #15
Don't know about Europe, if you go to the Sachy site they have the Robertson story on line, I also saw a doco on tv (Foxtel) about Robertson very impressive.
I did have one driver that was brandnew first screw, it shattered the square drive and broke off. One phone call to Sachy,s told them quickly what had happened and a new one was there the next day. Sachy's/Robertson forever.
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