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  1. #16
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    I had a big cleanout 6 months ago. I got sick of tri squares not being square and threw out 5 of mine. I took a piece of paper and a pencil to "the big green shed" and went through their $30 range. I found one that was actually square and told the guy in charge that he might as well throw the rest away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derekcohen View Post
    I would grab this 6" engineers square - perfect for joinery and a very good price for the make: Moore and Wright 150mm 6" Engineer Square Precision Ground Measure Faces 400-6 5051102019846 | eBay


    Regards from Perth

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    That looks like a winner. Thanks.

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    Default Square recommendation

    Fine Woodworking Mag rated PEC squares as best value and as accurate as the Starrett.

    I now have 3


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    Quote Originally Posted by Damienol View Post
    Fine Woodworking Mag rated PEC squares as best value and as accurate as the Starrett.

    I now have 3


    http://jimdavey-planes-sharpening.co...1-1a66b924fbe4
    Another winner! And so cheap I could get a combination square as well!

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    Cheap and super accurate are plastic geometry squares and can be regarded as disposable as well.
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    contact Chris Vesper from Vesper Tools in Melbourne and have him regrind that tool back to be an accurate square.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsteve View Post
    contact Chris Vesper from Vesper Tools in Melbourne and have him regrind that tool back to be an accurate square.
    I think my 50+ year old inherited square has earned it's retirement. I think I will just hang it on the wall and get me a PEC.


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    Thinking slightly out of the box, don’t disregard an adjustable square eg the Nobex.

    They aren’t dirt cheap but you don’t have to sell a kidney to buy one. I have had one for 20+ years and never had an issue, still 100% accurate and no issues with the preset angles.

    They are available from the “better” tool places, even framing places like the one in the link.

    Nobex Octo Folding Square 200mm - $52.00
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob38S View Post
    Thinking slightly out of the box, don’t disregard an adjustable square eg the Nobex.

    They aren’t dirt cheap but you don’t have to sell a kidney to buy one. I have had one for 20+ years and never had an issue, still 100% accurate and no issues with the preset angles.

    They are available from the “better” tool places, even framing places like the one in the link.

    Nobex Octo Folding Square 200mm - $52.00
    I do have one of those already, and to be honest I never tested it's squareness, assuming that by being adjustable (i.e. not be set) it wouldn't be terribly accurate.

    When I get home tonight I will give it the flip test and see how it goes.

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    Great, let us know how you got on with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob38S View Post
    Great, let us know how you got on with it.
    Not square. A little less than a millimetre out at the extremity of it's length.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wongdai View Post
    Not square. A little less than a millimetre out at the extremity of it's length.

    Try this.

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    How does that help adjust a Nobex? As I understand (having a Nobex), it is the indents which determine its accuracy ... or the blade made be bent. Check the latter as you can file this square (I have done this with speed squares).

    Get a good engineer's square (as per the one I linked to). They are the best. (That is what you get from Chris Vesper - a machinist square par excellence).

    Regards from Perth

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    +1 for the engineer's squares. They are without doubt the best value. I also have a small Colen Clenton adjustable square, but that's because I appreciate the design & workmanship. For pure practicality, the enginee'rs square is the go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by derekcohen View Post
    How does that help adjust a Nobex? As I understand (having a Nobex), it is the indents which determine its accuracy ... or the blade made be bent.
    How does it not help?
    1. As anticipated, a self-appointed adjudicator chimed in and made it plain that Nobex is not adjustable;
    2. An adjustable square is now shown to be more versatile than a Nobex because you can tune it
    3. No criticism of a good engineer square at all, but if you drop it, then it might not be square any more and you can't tune it either.


    Finally, I don't see A Nobex bending no matter how out of square it may be. The blade does fold though.

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