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Thread: What to use as a straight edge
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25th June 2004, 10:25 PM #1SENIOR MEMBER
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What to use as a straight edge
I have been using the edge of a 1m steel rule as a straight edge which is far from ideal. I want something better.
I did a search of this forum and have found many references to using a straight edge, but only 1 suggesting what to use as a straight edge.
The suggestion was a length of 25x50x2or3mm rectangular aluminium section.
Is this a suitably accurate and low cost solution? I would like 2400mm if possible.
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25th June 2004, 11:09 PM #2
Try Capral Aluminium Shouldn't be to expensive. http://www.capral.com.au/contact_us/Or maybe Onesteel or any Aluminium Window manufacturer.
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25th June 2004, 11:13 PM #3
Is the straight edge to be used to guide a saw or router?
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26th June 2004, 01:01 AM #4
Clint
I think that I would avoid aluminium section as a straight edge, unless it was a very substantial box section, say 50 x 75. Aluminium is just too soft and potentially flexible in long lengths (such as the 2400 you seek). I would rather go for steel section. This is available from Bunnings quite cheaply. I used a 2400 section (I think 40 x 40 from memory) as a guide fence for a router and circular saw. See below.
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26th June 2004, 03:38 AM #5
This might sound a bit stupid, but why not buy a proper straight edge.
I got one from the 2 Indian gentlemen in the Tent at the Sydney WWWShow last year. Cost somewhere around $20 and is brilliant. It is 1200mm long x 60mm wide with a handle in the middle that houses 2 spirit level bubbles.
It is far more better than some of the many things I have used in the past and a lot more accurate to boot.
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26th June 2004, 10:53 AM #6
This probably won't help you much, but I always rip a piece of MDF on the sliding tablesaw and use that as a straightedge. If it's something that I'm going to have to make a lot of cuts with, I band it with a piece of laminate so that the saw/knife/router bearing doesn't wear a groove into it.
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26th June 2004, 01:03 PM #7
It depends on what you want to use your staright edge for.
I have a variety of lengths of 50 x 25 aluminium & they do many jobs fine.
long ripping or routing (2400) can see some deflection so extra support is needed.
I know several builders who use the same as a general purpose "straight thing"
going wider can be good 25 x75 or 25x 100 would be good but expensive.
steel can be a bit heavy to swong arround & isnt as regular straight out of the mill a aliminium. but that may not bother you.
as neil says inder 1m there are some good manufactured products at the usual suppliers.
stay away from angle though It bends & twists I can do interesting things.
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26th June 2004, 02:35 PM #8
It seems to be assumed that your straight edge is to be a guide.
Check out local manufacturers and fabricators to see if you can get an offcut length of steel or aluminium that has a profile you can use. Otherwise, check out your local sheet metal shop for scrap lengths and have a 12 - 25 mm edge turned up at 90 degrees.
Over 2400 mm you will get distortion if the straight edge is clamped at its ends only. I would be looking for something at least 150 mm wide to minimise that problem.
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26th June 2004, 06:08 PM #9
straight edge
Nearly a month ago now I purchased a new mitre pull saw, and made a platform using an offcut from a modern mdf door with an hardwood lip, in addition I was fortunate to have a length of 40mm plywood which I have tacked on to the mdf door creating a flat surface plus the 90o .
See picture attached to explain further.
I have since found that laying pieces of timber on the platform against the ply I can ascertain its squareness etc.
This means you can go up to 78" length platform and have 10" plus width or wider, depending on your available space.woody U.K.
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26th June 2004, 08:28 PM #10Member
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Having tried various smaller sections of aluminium and steel angles over the years I discovered that angles can do strange things under pressure. Eventually I bought myself a 3m length of 100x25 aluminium R H S.
I use it as a guide for cutting up large panels MDF etc with a small power saw. Clamp at each end (laid flat of course) leaves plenty of room at each end for guiding the saw into the cut and no flex. I would think twice about anything smaller than 75mil for 2.4m
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26th June 2004, 09:05 PM #11
I think you would find that at 2400mm long Rectangular Aluminium 100mm x 25mm with 2 to 3mm wall thickness would not deflect. It would be lighter than steel and if you have a look at 2400mm spirit levels you would find that they aren't even that heavy.
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26th June 2004, 09:31 PM #12Novice
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Option for smaller section is
if deflection is a worry you can always lay a strip of around 300mm wide mdf with a square edge clamped perpendicular to the aluminium section. Set this up prior to pressure and this will stop sideways movement away from a straight line on the non tool side. Make sure its long enough to reach an edge where it becomes clampable. I say keep it lighter/smaller section so you can use it when installing/fitting in a house with one hand holding the straight edge and the level. If you are getting it cut consider the max height of a roof in house or frame you are sqaring if it is for this purpose.
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27th June 2004, 01:57 AM #13
I use a 3m length of 200mm x 50mm 4mm thick aluminium for ripping full sheets and some 75mm x 25mm x 4mm shorter lengths that was given to me by a retired cabinetmaker friend that he used for marking out full sized complicated angles kitchen designs. The lager size has no deflection at all and i have added a length of it to my Triton mk 3 rip fence with spacers to get the fence square to the bench top.
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1st July 2004, 02:07 PM #14New Member
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I use a level to do 48 inches on less. Mikie
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1st July 2004, 02:47 PM #15SENIOR MEMBER
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Here is a link to an article that shows how to make your own straight edge. I haven't tried it so I can't vouch for it, but the information seems to make sense.
http://www.tdl.com/~swensen/machines...ight_edge.html