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**ian** · 14th August 2021, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by GraemeCook

But cargo is still flying. Those planes carrying 50 passengers are not flying empty; they fill them up with cargo and the the airline algorithm auctions off those 50 seats for frequently extortionate prices.

EDIT: Managed to find a listing of international flights into Sydney yesterday (10-8-21). Thirteen flights with potential capacity around 4,000 passengers, but Sydney quarantine restricting arrivals to 2,000 passengers a week (average 285 per day) - less than 10% passenger load! Four flights from USA, 3 from Singapore, 2 from Middle East. There must be carrying a lot of cargo to justify their fuel expenditure!

I'm not sure that the air cargo rates being charged is even going close to justifying the fuel expenditure.

When I last looked at flight from the US two days ago, the one-way fare LAX to SYD for an October 6th departure (on United) was over AUD $20,000 per person.
That's about 5 times the pre-Covid business class fare from SFO to SYD, and around 3 times the pre-Covid first class fare.
one way economy seats (SFO to SYD) -- pre-Covid -- were selling for around AUD $1000.

So as a rough estimate -- 25 people per flight (the current cap) @ AUD $20,400 per person = around the same return as the airline would expect from 330 passenger 787 Dreamliner.
My conclusion -- air freight rates have not increased all that much due to Covid.

Incidentally, in May 2021 Qantas was still operating international flights to places like China, Hong Kong, Japan, Korea, Thailand, USA -- they were just not carrying any passengers.

**GraemeCook** · 14th August 2021, 07:50 PM

Generally agree, Ian. And if a plane carries 300 fewer passengers and their gaggage, then it can replace them with 30,000 kgs more paying freight.
* Presumes each passenger plus their baggage weighs only 100 kgs on average.

Originally Posted by Ian

... I'm not sure that the air cargo rates being charged is even going close to justifying the fuel expenditure. ...

If that were true, Ian, would cargo planes ever be flying?

In airline parlance, I think that a result of covid is that yield per flight is at record high level, but that overall flights are down by the 70% you suggested, perhaps more; the industry is still very much in survival mode.

**ian** · 15th August 2021, 05:38 AM

At the risk of deviating even further from the original topic ...

The number of air freighters flying into Australia appears to have remained relatively constant pre-Covid (May 2019) and during Covid (May 2021).

The number of other air services appears to have reduced by about 25% (not the 70% I suggested earlier).
But, passengers arriving by air into Australia -- excluding those coming from the Pacific Islands and New Zealand -- (May 2021 vs May 2019) are down more than 98%.
Outside the US, airlines are very much in survival mode because the huge decrease in passengers mean that too many air craft remain parked on a runway somewhere.

BTW
As I understand it, airline "yield" is typically expressed as revenue seats per km flown.
Raw dollars per operated flight doesn't allow for the proportion of the air craft fleet accruing lease liabilities while parked on a runway somewhere.

**GraemeCook** · 15th August 2021, 04:31 PM

Agreed, Ian, time for termination; we are too far off topic.

BTW, "yield" can also mean operating revenue minus direct operating costs - fuel, wages, victuals, landing fees, taxes, etc. Its a standard accountancy term.

Innumerate journalists often corrupt it to be their estimate of average revenue per seat, but all pretty fuzzy if you try to be more specific.

**GraemeCook** · 8th September 2021, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by GraemeCook

I have received two replies from Fine Wood Working Magazine Customer Service which included:

Fine Wood Working Magazine Customer Service

... Please allow until September 1, 2021 for delivery of your September/October 2021 issue.

... We are correcting our records and extending your subscription to
compensate for any inconvenience and missing issue caused.
...

No mention of replacing the other two missing issues, and I no longer subscribe to the electronic version. Another email sent.

I waited a week past their specified deadline of 1 September, and the missing issues have still not arrived. Another "reminder" sent to Tauntons.

**ian** · 8th September 2021, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by GraemeCook

I waited a week past their specified deadline of 1 September, and the missing issues have still not arrived. Another "reminder" sent to Tauntons.

I don't want to dissuade you from chasing Taunton for the "missing" September/October issue of Fine Woodworking (Issue #291).
But, Alberta is more than 12,000 km closer to Connecticut that Tasmania is and I'm still waiting on delivery of my September/October issue.

It would be useful to know where Derek is with his missing issues of the Magazine.

**Treecycle** · 8th September 2021, 12:55 PM

I didn't even get a reply to my inquiry on the 10/8/21, just their automated reply when you contact them saying they with be in touch within 48 hours.

**Mountain Ash** · 8th September 2021, 02:07 PM

Hi all. This may be encouraging for those waiting for their copy of FWW. My Aug/Sept issue of Fine Homebuilding came yesterday. Yaay!!

**GraemeCook** · 10th September 2021, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by GraemeCook

I waited a week past their specified deadline of 1 September, and the missing issues have still not arrived. Another "reminder" sent to Tauntons.

Tauntons have now advised that they have extended my subscription yet again.

Three missing issues - this sounds like a systemic problem - and three times they have extended my subscription.

At the rate that they are going, by the end of next year there will be ten missing issues, and my subscription will have been extended ten times. This does not compute!

**Mr Brush** · 10th September 2021, 06:44 PM

Welcome to the wacky world of Taunton's Customer Service. Abandon hope all who enter here.....

**jazzy69** · 10th September 2021, 07:30 PM

Hi Graeme,
It looks like you are going to have an "eternal subscription" like the rest of us lol

**derekcohen** · 10th September 2021, 08:23 PM

One advantage of not receiving the paper magazine is that the subscription is extended on the on-line copy. Reading the paper version is preferred, but these days there is less and less of interest. If FWW keeps this up, we may receive the on line edition for years to come!

Regards from Perth

Derek (still without a magazine this year)

**GraemeCook** · 10th September 2021, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by jazzy69

Hi Graeme,
It looks like you are going to have an "eternal subscription" like the rest of us lol

Exactly my fear; an eternal subscription and zero delivery.

Originally Posted by derekcohen

... One advantage of not receiving the paper magazine is that the subscription is extended on the on-line copy. ...

But not if you allowed your online subscription to lapse.

**Treecycle** · 10th September 2021, 11:49 PM

Just received the subscription renewal notification tonight. Still haven't received a reply to my question about missing editions so at this stage I will be advising them that the subscription will not be renewed. We will see what happens then.

**GraemeCook** · 11th September 2021, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by Treecycle

Just received the subscription renewal notification tonight. Still haven't received a reply to my question about missing editions so at this stage I will be advising them that the subscription will not be renewed. We will see what happens then.

What? Wasn't your subscription extended?

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