Thread: Table Saw Wheels

I have a carba tec heavy duty mobile base on my jointer. I wouldn't recommend it for a table saw as it is always on the feet taking the weight. My table saw base I got from get woodworking when I got my Harvey saw. This one sits hard on ply on the ground, and lifts to engage the wheels to move around. Much better in my opinion.

Just my experience. ..

Cheers

Gab

Got any photos Gab? Get Woodworking don't have much of a website so nothing to see there.

Do you remember what it cost in a ball park figure?

I had a pair of the light Hare and Forbes ones. I hated them from day one, they were a bolt together assembly that forever seems to come undone. They raise the machine by about15-20mm

When I replaced my table saw i go a new one from Get Woodworking in Williamstown, they don't have much of a website but Roy was very helpful over the phone.

I think it is the base Harvey makes to go with their table saws. It uses indexing pin to set the size of the base and the wheel locking system is a lot more user friendly. The steel used is also a lot heavier. It raises the machine by about 40mm. The downside is it was significantly more expensive, it cost me $170 delivered to Geelong.

I've tried to attach some photos of the bases. The new one has the laguna on it

Looks like you guys have got two different bases from Get Woodworking.

From the description it looks like this is the one Gab got. MB-600 Universal Mobile Base from Harvey


◆ Maximum carrying capacity 315 kg
◆ Eccentric locking structure, adjust the base size range of 508mm * 508mm to 712mm * 712mm
◆ two positioning legs
◆ 2 sets High Speed ​​Mobile Wheels
◆ Net Weight 13.5 kg

I got a set of the mobile bases years ago for my table saw and reconfigured it for my new saw (well new 3 - 4 years ago) I find it really solid and does a good job

Having said that I got another set for my bandsaw and can say that I am singularly unimpressed - it seems IMHO that the original has been copied and the copy is not as good

the type I have is this

I would not get another

Originally Posted by DSEL74

I'm wondering if anyone has experience good or bad with the wheeled base kits that Carbatec and Hare and Forbe sell.

Are they any good, which is better, other versions available.


How much do they raise the height of the saw? I/m thinking as I set up/build my workshop I would like to get as far as possible everything at a uniform height. For example that way the workbench can act as an outtable for the table saw. Either can act as a rest for long pieces in the CMS etc, etc.


For reference the table saw will be a Carbatec SB10

I've got two Carbatec Universal Mobile Bases (http://www.carbatec.com.au/universal...apacity_c21716). One under my Jet Combo Planner/Jointer, and a second under my Router Table. The Carbatec mobile bases sit on adjustable feet and are lifted up onto caster wheels by pressing your foot down onto a plastic pedal when you want the machine to be mobile.

The adjustable feet are very helpful if, like me, your workshop floor is uneven. However, I have broken the plastic pedals on both mobile bases. Carbatec provided free replacement plastic pedals as the units were both less than a year old and were still under warranty. The Jet Combo Planner/Jointer weighs about 50 Kg less than the mobile base's rated weight capacity, and the router table weighs about 100 kg less than the mobile base's rated capacity -- So, I'm not overloading the mobile bases, so that's not the reason that the plastic pedals break easily. The Plastic Pedal has a cam shaped lobe that does the lifting, and it is the cam lobe that breaks off.

When I received the last set of replacement plastic pedals, a Sales Rep at Carbatec suggested that I adjust the feet on the mobile base so that the Plastic Pedals only have to lift the machine the smallest amount to make the machine mobile. Prior to that suggestion, I had been lifting the machines about 20mm by pressing down on the Plastic pedals. Following Carbatec's suggestion, I now only lift the machines about 5mm when I press down on the plastic pedals. Since adjusting the mobile bases that way, I've gone for 8 months without breaking one of the Plastic Pedals, and their recommendation certainly makes sense when you look at how the lift mechanism works.

I also have one Hare & Forbes mobile base (http://www.machineryhouse.com.au/W930), which is now a spare (it used to live under a Carbatec 14" band saw which I sold last year). The lift mechanism on the Hare & Forbes mobile base seems to be a bit more robust, but the Hare & Forbes mobile base is not as easy to raise into the mobile position.

With regard to your other question - how much do the mobile bases raise the machines off the ground - not easy for me to measure unless I drop one of the machines off it's mobile base, but my rough measurement suggests that the mobile base increases the machines height by about 20 to 25 mm.

So - provided you adjust the Carbatec mobile bases correctly, they work quite well, and in my opinion, the Carbatec bases are a better choice.

Regards,

Roy

Ok,

You can see the red stops on the jointer base. These need to be pushed down to engage the feet to put it in 'rest/use' position so this is where I think there could be trouble. Having all the wight relying on those two small feet (the other end is on wheels that get locked in place so not as bad, but still not totally sound in my opinion) isn't the way the machine was supposed to operate.

On my table saw you can see the base of the saw sitting on the ply. This means the entire weight is actually sitting on the ground, and you need to lift the saw a little to engage the wheels. A much better design I think.

I can't really remember the cost, but I think it was a little over $90 for the saw base, and then the cost of the ply to mount it on (I made sure it was a hardwood ply just to be sure). Their site, as stated above isn't very informative, but the couple of times I have popped in there, the fellow really is great to deal with.

I think the base is the same as this woodriver one.

http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/152...dware-Kit.aspx

Hope this helps.

Cheers

Gab

Charlie yours looks like the JET version. Jet 708118 JMB-UMB Universal Mobile Base

Roy, Your looks to be the same as the one on Charlie's jointer. Is that correct??

I had a set of the light H&F wheels on my TS and I found they were a PITA because they were always getting in the way, and even though they were rated for the weight of my TS the wheels quickly developed a flat spot and would not roll properly. I also dislike how only one set of wheels steer so it is not as easy to move gear into position and it may first appear.
After about 6 years the wheel rubber started to disintegrate after coming into contact several times with chain saw bar oil.
I replaced all the wheels with polyurethane wheels that cost nearly as much as the original stand and wheels and then put this set on my Jointer since that sits right out of the way.
They lesson here is cheap wheel sets use cheap wheels so watch out for these.

The wheels on my BS I made myself and 7 years in they are still working well but they still get in the way far more than I like.

After using wheels for many years I began to question whether there were other ways to move gear.
Because I only move my gear occasionally and it is always inside my shed I have started to replaced the wheels on my TS and a couple of benches that had wheels with HDPE skids. These are just 6 mm thick pieces of HDPE, countersunk screwed to the bottom of the legs. The edges of the HDPE are curved using a router round over bit. They slide very easily over smooth concrete, the gear can be easily moved in any direction, and they don't get in the way. However, they are no good if you want to move the gear over brick paving or slabs etc.

Originally Posted by DSEL74

Charlie yours looks like the JET version. Jet 708118 JMB-UMB Universal Mobile Base

I dug up the invoice and it is listed as a Harvey mobile base. The frame is the same as the jet but the wheels are different with the fixed ones mounted on the side

Bob, The skids sound like a good idea but I'm not sure if the table saw will be a bit heavy to slide around on them. Probably the way to go on smaller items like jointers etc.


Charlie, Thanks for the update were you in the right range for price?



I did email Get Woodworking

I am not familiar with the Carbatec SB10 tablesaw. Carbatec sell a few bases that suit most saws and my price would be list plus freight. Could you tell me which base was recommended as it might be from another supplier.
Regards,
Roy

Doesn't seem like he stocks them, possibly just orders them in with machines purchased???

Maybe he does just get them in for the saws at get woodworking ...

But the link I had is definitely the same so depending on shipping could be the go?

Hi Dsel74, I have the H&F one under my TS and also my little 6" jointer. I'm very happy with them, and I move the machines very often as I only have a single car garage space, and the Mrs does a mosaics class every week so I pack everything away for that.

I find them easy to assemble, very robust and the machines are easy to manouvre in a tight space.

Peter