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16th September 2018, 08:39 PM #1GOLD MEMBER
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Taildove, or tovedail ?
I've always wanted to approxi-make this 10 drawer toolchest, and whilst looking for something I came across my dad's haul from our last trip to Carbatec - a dovetail saw, dovetail marker, honing guide.
He didn't get to use them before he passed away, and I don't know what his plan was, but I decided to stuff up my carefully calculated cut list, and rather than using butt joints in the drawers, I would hand (mostly) dovetail the drawers in this chest.
As I've never made a dovetail before, I watched multiple YouTubes, mocked up the design in OpenSCAD, and knew I'd have to do some practice joints before I set blade to my precious pine. (Lesson 1: don't use pine )
I was rather chuffed when the first attempt actually went together, and it wasn't until the next day (but thankfully before any more cuts were made) that I realised I hadn't really made a "dovetail".
Is this a "taildove"
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or a "tovedail"
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The inspiration
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carcass
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fronts test-fitted
10D_Fronts.jpg
Improving with practice
10D_Practice.jpg
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17th September 2018, 10:00 AM #3SENIOR MEMBER
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I'm intrigued about the OpenSCAD program you mentioned. Am I right that you create objects purely by scripting, not interactively like Sketchup?
Your tail-dove joint is quite cool btw!
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17th September 2018, 12:39 PM #4GOLD MEMBER
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Nice work.
Does everyone know the humourous history of the dovetail as posted on the Bungendore Woodworks gallery? Ill post the link here if required.
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17th September 2018, 01:45 PM #5GOLD MEMBER
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Ah-ha! Now I understand AlexS' reference to a "shovetail" joint😁
Sebastiaan76: yes, OpenSCAD is similar to a programming language, so you can adjust your model by changing numbers rather than trying to drag something to just the right spot.
I like it (probably because of my IT background), and it's free.
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17th September 2018, 01:54 PM #6
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17th September 2018, 02:06 PM #7
I'm pretty sure Tove is a girl in Denmark ....
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17th September 2018, 05:27 PM #8GOLD MEMBER
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... and a "dail" is?
Dail - the lower house of the parliament of the Irish Republic.
The things that you learn via woodwork!
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18th September 2018, 04:22 PM #9SENIOR MEMBER
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Hmm, I'm keen to check out out. I use Linux as my daily machine and Sketchup in WINE isn't great. Gotta say, at first thought, having to script my design doesn't sound very fast/intuitive, but I guess there's only one way to find out!
Thanks for bringing this program to my attention!
Seb
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18th September 2018, 06:18 PM #10GOLD MEMBER
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Yay! Another Linux user! What flavour(s)?
OpenSCAD has 2 Windows - code, and visual representation of the model, so code, then see what it looks like, adjust code, repeat. I often just iterate closer and closer to my end result.
One thing I didn't learn for ages was the debugging characters, where you can NOT render part of the code, or only render a part, or render transparent so that you can check internal alignments.
Also, if you are, say, making a hole by subtracting a cylinder from a cube, don't have the two parts exactly the same height - make the cylinder a tiny bit taller than the cube, otherwise you can get weird artefacts seeming to close the hole. (This will make sense once you do your first "difference")
This is a screenshot of somewhere along the planning for my toolchest
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Cheers,
Andrew
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19th September 2018, 12:51 AM #11SENIOR MEMBER
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Wow. interesting workflow! Thanks for the pic!
I work for Red Hat, so Fedora 28 at work, but at home I'm a sucker for Arch Linux. I use Plasma DE at work and prefer i3wm at home.
I feel we've gotten away from woodworking somewhat though!
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24th September 2018, 02:00 PM #12GOLD MEMBER
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Progress pics at halfway, and 8 out of 10 drawer dovetails done. IMG_20180920_173437.jpgIMG_20180924_124527.jpg
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24th September 2018, 05:01 PM #13
I think you have done a good job.
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11th October 2018, 10:30 PM #14GOLD MEMBER
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Mostly complete, possibly lining the drawers and maybe some dividers once I know what will be going in.
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12th October 2018, 05:32 PM #15SENIOR MEMBER
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Nice work! Loads of storage!