Thread: Thicknesser and embedded screw didn't play well together

Well finding 37 deg bevel carbide cutters seems to be the same as finding a pot of gold at the base of the rainbow.... unless we buy direct from Timbecon.

I placed two orders with Aliexpress vendors showing the correct images and specs, added a note to both that they had to supply 15x15x2.5-37R150.
First one just cancelled the order at least.
The second one shipped the bog standard 30 deg version despite the note... waiting on their reply.

I have however tracked down a vendor that can produce for me with a MOQ that's well above my need but within reach, taking 24hrs to consider the deal.

For the hobby user a pack of ten spare may very well last a lifetime but I chipped out two more over the weekend, lucky these just needed rotating one spot my gut says that if I plan to do more with recycled wood then a stash of cutters won't go astray... a metal detector would not have helped this time either as i had ripped a 100x100 to 100x60 then planed the last 5mm to 55 with the thicky.... i hit the embedded nail at 55.6 so nearly midway inside the original 4x4 oh well

Cheers
Phil

Gday Phil

Good update.
Keep us informed, please.
Can you share details re your MOQ quote, please.
Maybe a few of us could combine to make up an order.
Just thinking "outloud".
I haven't got a price from Timbecon yet; I expect to next month when I'm there.
Cheers
Keith

Phil, have you tried AZCarbide? I buy a few different tips from them for my hollowing rig, very happy with his service.
Rgds,
Crocy.

Originally Posted by verawood

Gday Phil

Good update.
Keep us informed, please.
Can you share details re your MOQ quote, please.
Maybe a few of us could combine to make up an order.
Just thinking "outloud".
I haven't got a price from Timbecon yet; I expect to next month when I'm there.
Cheers
Keith

Hiya Keith,

The overnight delay really is about just checking that those inserts are used across all the spiral heads by Timbecon, seems to be the case from the website... $89 for a pack of 10 btw from the website and they list it for all heads.

haven't got a quote per se yet so have no idea of landed cost. back when i was doing most of my dealings direct via Alibabi the aussie dollar was largely at parity with the US$, now i have to mentally add in the peso value.

Originally Posted by Old Croc

Phil, have you tried AZCarbide? I buy a few different tips from them for my hollowing rig, very happy with his service.
Rgds,
Crocy.

I hadn't but i just went through their website catalogue at least and everything was 30 deg bevel. thanks for the option though.

Cheers to you both
Phil

Originally Posted by verawood

Gday Phil

Good update.
Keep us informed, please.
Can you share details re your MOQ quote, please.
Maybe a few of us could combine to make up an order.
Just thinking "outloud".
I haven't got a price from Timbecon yet; I expect to next month when I'm there.
Cheers
Keith

I'm also interested in purchasing spares too. Count me in if you require numbers.

I haven't been able to locate the genuine replacements on Timbecon's website, any clues where they hide them? Only ones I can find are hidden here - Spiral Cutterheads for All Sherwood Planers (timbecon.com.au)

ps I see they have the TCT standard blades listed with the thicky - 13in Deluxe Thicknesser (timbecon.com.au) but not a similar drop down for the spiral head (thicknesser).

You have to hit the drop down menu beside the actual cutter head and they are right down the bottom.

Inserts.JPG

Originally Posted by Treecycle

You have to hit the drop down menu beside the actual cutter head and they are right down the bottom.

Inserts.JPG

That's what I said above (are hidden here) , however there are no specifications on size etc. on either web page. One thing I have learned with "spare parts" never assume anything.

I've gotta say that the lack of specs on the web site really doesn't sit very well with me...

The 5 spares i got with my thicknesser came in a box labeled BU805 - 15x15x2.5-37 - R150.

They measure exactly to those numbers as do the ones from the machine. The 15x15x2.5 - 30 - R150 that arrived from china match up for everything but the angle and hence I expect will not seat correctly.

Timbecon only list the one insert cutter to order and list the MB1936 as one of the compatible spiral heads so one would assume that that is the spec used for all, but they would need to be measured... not hard to do though

Cheers
Phil

Just found this.

Amazon.com
Could be what we're looking for.
Fingers x'd.

I hope the description on the cutter blade box supplied is correct.

BU805 - 15x15x2.5-37 - R150

Timbecon's website describes them as;

"The cutterhead fitted with 30 14mm wide knives"

I have checked the spare cutters supplied and they are 15 x 15;
I haven't checked the cutter head, yet

Originally Posted by verawood

Just found this.

Amazon.com
Could be what we're looking for.
Fingers x'd.

Nope sorry, they are straight not R150.... whilst not plentiful the straight edge ones are at least purchasable but are not suitable.

Need the 6"/150mm radius

P4290174.jpg

The red line is a 150mm radius line
The insert on the left is one of my damaged ones and i'm reminded that I need to ask for the r0.5mm radius on the corners as well
The insert on the right is one of the 30 degree units and you can see the larger base area that would stop it seating correctly

besides the different sizes the variation just in the 15mm versions for the edge is straight, R50, R100, R150 add in sharp or R0.5 corners. The company i was speaking to also made the bevel angles in 30, 35, and 40. 37 was a new grind for them and they would need to configure the CNC hence the MOQ

Then add in carbide grades and we are in a minefield

Originally Posted by verawood

Timbecon's website describes them as;

"The cutterhead fitted with 30 14mm wide knives"

that is either a typo or pure error... maybe they were 14mm at some time in the past, i know the 15mm have a slight overlap

Cheers
Phil

His name escapes me but there is a member of this forum that supplies cutters for most machines. He is not an active member so will not see this thread.

Originally Posted by Aussiephil

Nope sorry, they are straight not R150.... whilst not plentiful the straight edge ones are at least purchasable but are not suitable.

Need the 6"/150mm radius

P4290174.jpg

The red line is a 150mm radius line
The insert on the left is one of my damaged ones and i'm reminded that I need to ask for the r0.5mm radius on the corners as well
The insert on the right is one of the 30 degree units and you can see the larger base area that would stop it seating correctly

besides the different sizes the variation just in the 15mm versions for the edge is straight, R50, R100, R150 add in sharp or R0.5 corners. The company i was speaking to also made the bevel angles in 30, 35, and 40. 37 was a new grind for them and they would need to configure the CNC hence the MOQ

Then add in carbide grades and we are in a minefield

Then there is the spec's for the Flat (CSK) Socket Head Screw