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Thread: Tilt top table WIP
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28th November 2007, 11:23 PM #1
Tilt top table WIP
I thought I'd start a work in progress thread of a tilt top table I've been mulling over for some time. Hopefully it will serve two purposes: share the process with other. And by posting now at this early stage I'll have to keep up the work and finish it as this will most likely be a fairly long and intensive project.
So here goes... part one
The first pic I poached from Sotherbys' of a table I'm using as the base style. It's not that detailed so for the most part I'm winging it on the design and proportions. I've drawn a lot of it in a CAD program to get an over all idea of proportion but CAD is so limited with such complex shaped projects so I'm gonna have to rely on making a bit here and tweeking a bit there as it all comes together. The table will have a 24" pie crust top that will tilt and stand about 27" tall. Instead of ball in claw feet I'll be carving lions paw feet. Never been a big fan of them in the past but for some reason I like them now. Doesn't appear that many crafts mens over the centuries were all the fussed with them either as they're a relatively rare design feature. But for some reason I thought they'd work here.
The second pic is the plank of some sort of gum wood I bought from a fellow forumite in Brissy (sorry can't remember your name - please identify yourself if you're reading this). I stands about 6' high and 2' across by 1 3/4" thick.
Third pic shows the laid out top.
Fourth pic is the top being turned to a rough diameter and thickness. To avoid screw holes I sandwiched it between the tailstock center and a 12" sanding disk mounted on the head stock. At this stage I don't have any set dimensions so I'm shaving a bit off and then taking some time to see if I like what's emerging. I've left it a bit chunky till I get the rest made so I can see how it will look together. To minimise warping I'm taking equal amounts of both sides.
At this early stage I've come to the realization that it's gonna be more difficult than first thought as the grain in this timber is very short and brittle so the carving will be much slower going and I might have to scale back on the detail.
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29th November 2007, 12:01 AM #2
Part two
First pic. I thought I include this one because it shows the Veritas block plane with the accessory handle. It turns what is a great block plane into an even better and more versatile one - highly recommended. I'm also cleaning up the tear out in the bottom of the table top- turning tends to be a bit rough in such grain and I wasn't all that keen to sit there and fill the neighborhood with sanding dust so I'll plane and scrape it.
Second pic. Is the final scraping of the bottom and shaped edge. I started by band sawing out the shape, rough carving, and then finishing it with rasps and some very course sandpaper. I'll now leave the inside work till much later on in the process as I may have to remove more material as the project takes shape. I'm still waiting for the Veritas scraper plane to show up, but the Stanley did a good job as did the LN 85. The Stanley 112 is better at taking light shavings and doing a final clean up and the LN 85 excels at taking real heavy shaving as it has a very rigid fixed blade.
Third pic. At this stage I decided to move to the legs. I sketched out what I wanted and then cut out an MDF pattern. I've left it very chunky for now so I'll be able to evolve the shape as things progress. I had just glued on the extra bits for the paws and was shaping the leg when I realized I was doing things in the wrong order. So for now I've put the legs down to concentrate on the pedestal. I need to have the pedestal turned before I can tell what the proportions of the legs need to be to have balance.
Pic four. The rough turned pedestal. I've been turning for over 25 years so I'm pretty confident in my eye for detail that I could get the pedestal right the first time and use that for the basis to determine the proportions of the legs and other small bits. I also have a really good book by a fellow named Albert Sacks called Good, Better and Best. It details the subtle differences that separate a masterpiece from the just average. I have some lines drawn on it to layout the carving I'm contemplating. I'll flute the column, and at this time trying to work out what floral carving I'll add. Definitely some decisions that can't be hurried.
Stay tuned for more
Writing isn't my strong point so I'll take more pictures.
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29th November 2007, 03:55 AM #3
Nice one! Can't wait to see the finished product.
DamienIs it wrong to be in love with a sawbench?
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29th November 2007, 05:06 AM #4GOLD MEMBER
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Lots of luck with your carving. There was a FWW article on making one of those tops a while back - called a 'Pie Crust' top IIRC. The detailed carved edges are actually carved in small bits & glued (?and pinned?) on - made from the same piece of wood as the solid top of course.
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29th November 2007, 08:41 AM #5Skwair2rownd
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Tilt Top Table
Lookin' good from here! I admire your courage for taking that on!
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29th November 2007, 08:51 AM #6
Very nice indeed looking froward to seeing the finished product
I wont mention the flowery wallpaper/curtains behind the lathe it might you
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29th November 2007, 09:14 AM #7
TA,
You don’t muck around with little Mickey Mouse projects do you? This one is like one of those master classes in FWW mag. I think you should send this project to them and I am sure they will publish it.
This is a tough one and it is beyond my woodworking skills but I have an excuse. It is not my style.
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29th November 2007, 10:15 AM #8
Hi Matthew,
This is amazing. I'm loving every second of this.
and I agree with Wongo!
cheers
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29th November 2007, 10:45 AM #9Senior Member
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TA,
Looks fantastic - I admire your skills and your courage (way beyond my current levels).
I also like your holding table - think I'll make myself one. It looks like it spins - is it on some kind of lazy susan or is it just sitting in a vice?
Cheers,
Adam
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29th November 2007, 11:32 AM #10.
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This is going to be a must read WIP. I have seen your other work and its world class. Great stuff
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29th November 2007, 12:13 PM #11
Matt,
How did you shape the pie crust edge? The second picture in Part Two post, is that the table top or underside?
Thanks
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29th November 2007, 12:14 PM #12
I think it's time I dropped over!
Cheers,
P
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29th November 2007, 01:56 PM #13SENIOR MEMBER
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It's going to be a fabulous heirloom quality piece, Matthew.
If I live to be 100 I know my work will never come up to this standard.Brian
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29th November 2007, 01:59 PM #14Cliff.
If you find a post of mine that is missing a pic that you'd like to see, let me know & I'll see if I can find a copy.
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29th November 2007, 06:08 PM #15
This is a league above where I play.
Regards
John
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