Timber on this forum is over priced due to sellers greed

[section1]

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Mods please delete this thread

[quercus]

It’s a free market economy we live in though. Supply and demand means that a price eventually gets reached that is the market price. If people don’t buy, prices tend to fall, if there is a lot of demand prices rise. It’s sometimes crazy what markets do- take real estate at the moment . Best thing to do is vote with your wallet. Markets are rarely fair, but in the long run usually accurate .


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[Kuffy]

Sell for less than it would cost in a timber yard and help make woodworking affordable again.

So the timber yards go bust to make woodworking affordable again without a steady and constant supply of timber. Genius.

[section1]

nothing to say

[section1]

So the timber yards go bust to make woodworking affordable again without a steady and constant supply of timber. Genius.

Really? You just said?

[Kuffy]

yeah I did just said. I could pick this ridiculous crap apart all day, but I'll just add....what is the cubic meter rate of 3.06meters of 180x50 blackwood at $120? About $4200/4300 a cube? Seems fair given that you just quoted 5k a cube for Blackwood.

[quercus]

The timbers I see for sale tend to be more figured and hard to get as well.


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[elanjacobs]

Free market, caveat emptor, due diligence, charge what the market will bear, etc, etc.

I'm not supporting price gouging, but there should be some responsibility on the buyer to do a bit of research as to what a fair price is.

EDIT: And apparently people should do their sums before complaining about price gouging...

[cjbfisher]

I'd like to see how you worked out that it is waaaaaaaay overpriced.
4 pieces of 180 x 50 which would actually be 175 x 50, as we all know timber is cut oversize to allow for shrinkage. These would be sold as 0.7m lengths by any wholesaler. So, in total there is 2.8m.
$120 divided by 2.8m = $42.86/m.
$42.86/m divide by the timber section (0.175 x 0.05)= $4898 per cubic metre, which is nearly $100 per cubic metre less than the price you quoted to demonstrate that we are all being ripped off.
How does that work?

[elanjacobs]

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Not if you're going to put up arguments that are easily dismantled.

[cjbfisher]

Post deleted. It's just not worth the fight.

Or was it because you were wrong.
Man up and say so.
A couple of apologies might be in order.
1. To the seller of the Blackwood for tarnishing his reputation.
2. To the other people who "know who they are" for trying to drag them into your unfounded muck raking.

[rustynail]

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Not worth the BS would be more like it.

[Lappa]

My local timber yard is selling Tas Oak 32x185 (nominal 38x200) at $44.22 per LM. If my maths are correct that’s $7469 per m3
That Blackwoods not a bad price.

[elanjacobs]

That math looks good to me and seems consistent with what I can find online.

Working to the rough sawn dimension gives $5800/cube retail, so $3-4k/cube wholesale...yeah that checks out for select grade.

[rwbuild]

Seeing as how you are so adamant about being ripped off, you go buy the equipment, go fell and mill the timber, transport it, market it, sit on 80% of it until someone buys it and make a living out of it, sick pay, holidays, holding charges, breakages, repairs, tax man, etc and then come back to us with your fair market price.....