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3rd March 2022, 12:18 PM #1
Is this a Dumb Idea?
Usually, I am a great fan of Fine Wood Working magazine and frequently sing its praises. They continuously provide interesting articles, some really good ideas and techniques, and occasionally something truly brilliant.
Today I have just received some junk mail from FWW with something at the other end of the spectrum.
Router Door Jig.jpgWood Flattening Jig
Prima facie, it does look workable, but a little consideration and the problems start to emerge:
- The clamps will probably slip with the vibration of the router,
- The battens will almost certainly flex,
- The batten actually holding the router will twist,
- Is the door swing perfectly aligned (most jams are not absolutely vertical),
- Is the floor prefectly horizontal,
- The radius of the swing will magnify small errors,
- etc, etc.
Any surface "flattened" by this technique is likely to be so rough with parallel gouges, and worse if anything slips. Certainly nothing near "fine wood working".
A far better idea would be to use a traditional router sled or a traditional scrub plane, or even an electric hand planer used like a scrub plane.
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3rd March 2022, 12:47 PM #2
I will reserve judgement.
but if you dp proceed with this....PLEASE PLEASE video and show us without editingI would love to grow my own food, but I can not find bacon seeds
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3rd March 2022, 01:02 PM #3
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3rd March 2022, 01:43 PM #4GOLD MEMBER
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I would be more concerned about what the wife has to say after seeing what you have been doing with the lounge room door
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3rd March 2022, 02:18 PM #5GOLD MEMBER
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I know you want to know how this turns out so I'll tell you.
I set it all up in the lounge and I just had the camera setup on a tripod. All good to go!
Then the wife came home....
No video sorry. I have to shoot out in this rain to buy some eggs.
Turns out I'm making her breakfast in bed tomorrow.My YouTube channel: https://youtu.be/2_KPRN6I9SE
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3rd March 2022, 04:01 PM #6China
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Looks like something you would see from one of those Russian channels on YouTube.
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3rd March 2022, 05:34 PM #7
Reminds me of an old party trick I used to be fit enough to do when I was much younger.
Stand with your back to the edge of the door.
Reach up with both hands to the top of the door.
Use your stomach muscles to roll up the door and end up sitting on top.
Heard about it from a mates wedding in Brisbane in 1970 or so.
The mates grandfather did it, none of the young blokes could.
I gave it a go and being light was no probs.
Did it at a Uni student party years later when I was Lab craftsman in charge of the workshop
Problem was the door frame was rotten and half way up the door ripped off the hinges and I surfed the door back down to the floor.
The students gave me a cheer as they thought that was the intended outcome.
Lot of explaining for the maintenance guys on Monday morning.
Some idiot also put his head thru the canite ceiling stepping on a stool to get a view of a performance at the front. Not saying who that was
H.Jimcracks for the rich and/or wealthy. (aka GKB '88)
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3rd March 2022, 05:46 PM #8GOLD MEMBER
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I have actually seen this done. An old chap asked me to recut some slabs for him. I pointed out the wonky nature of the existing slabs and he said that would be fine as he could deal with that later but he would appreciate one flat side. As there was no surplus, I went ahead and ripped the pieces through the centre. Upon delivering the cut timber I was asked to drop them off near the old outdoor dunny down the back. Attached to the door was a similar setup to the OP. I was intrigued. The old chap obliged by setting up a piece of the timber, inside the dunny, fresh cut face down and proceeded to dress down the wonky face with the router. The dunny retained all or most of the dust and upon completion he swept the floor down the long drop hole that was left when the throne had been removed. I noted that the hinges had been replaced and all four corners of the door had been shear plated, braced and bolted through. The finish on the timber was quite good, considering.
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3rd March 2022, 08:21 PM #9
Generally, if you have to ask that question, yes it is!
Pat
Work is a necessary evil to be avoided. Mark Twain
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3rd March 2022, 11:40 PM #10
I don't reckon the idea is dumb...
With a bit of thought and proper planning it could work quite effectively. However, I do think that the same amount of thought and effort being put into a router sled would be far more practical.
On t'other hand, anyone believing it'd be as simple as emulating that picture, well... they're dumb.
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4th March 2022, 08:03 AM #11
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4th March 2022, 11:13 AM #12
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5th March 2022, 10:58 PM #13
As a bit of lateral thinking its quite smart. What could let you down are the practical details. Door would need to be robust and also the hinges. If door was not hung perpendicular then it would be lower one end of the swing. The swing of said door(router arm) would need also to be parallel to floor or whatever slab sits on if you want to have equal thickness. Its an idea with potential if given some thought and proper setup. Thing has got me thinking of something like a hinged gallows arm you could mount in the vice over your bench. Wonder if anyone has run with it past a sketch.
Regards
John
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6th March 2022, 09:18 AM #15
No arguments there John, but it was presented as a solution, not a WIP. Even if the door was robust and perfect, the jig frame is far too flimsy and unstable. Its almost a "start again" scenario.
As you know from using flattening sleds, the big challenge is removing flex. That design seems to maximise flex!
I am reminded of when Thomas Edison invented the incandescent light bulb. He literally designed it on a blackboard and then set a team of engineers, scientists, craftsmen, etc to work to make a prototype. They reasoned that the ideal bulb would have the filament in a vacuum; but all their vacuum bulbs failed, repeatedly. Edison was CEO of a public company and had an AGM scheduled; he blythely announced that he had invented 10,000 electric light bulbs that did not work. No one in the audience knew what an electric light bulb was so it went through to the keeper.
Then they tried inert gases and the globes that we have almost phased out were invented. Prototype #10,001 ?
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