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20th February 2018, 04:17 PM #16GOLD MEMBER
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If you want a big big list of channels which are mostly woodwork related along with some music and other stuff that I have a minor interest in. You can see all of the channels I am subscribed to on my channel hopefully by following this link. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtE...w=list&view=56
These are not recommendations, I subscribe to everything. Subscribing to a channel doesn't fill your email with 1000's of spam mails. It just gives you a tab (subscriptions) to press on youtube and you can see what is new and possibly of interest to you each day. Usually there is less than 20 new vids each day, and most of them suck...well I assume they suck because they had a sucky thumbnail
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23rd February 2018, 01:13 AM #17Senior Member
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Not strictly woodworking, but I find the Engels Coach Shop videos on Youtube awesome. Those guys are the ultimate in traditional craftsmenship.
Cheers, Glen
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23rd February 2018, 02:07 PM #18Intermediate Member
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All good stuff from these fellas. For restorations, add Thomas Johnson antique furniture restoration for some clues. What would be real good though would be for Xanthorrhoeas, Fletty, Thumbthumper and Horsecroft's knowlege and experience to be recorded for posterity
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23rd February 2018, 07:44 PM #19Senior Member
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Jackman works, Frank Howarth, Alec Steel, Chandler Dickinson, Jimmy Diresta, I like to make stuff, Make something.
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24th February 2018, 06:56 AM #20Novice
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Всем привет! Я заинтересовался этими каналами! Благодаря!
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24th February 2018, 09:20 AM #21GOLD MEMBER
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David Barron is another highly skilled woodworker who hasn't made a new video in a long time but worth watching all the same.
CHRIS
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24th February 2018, 07:51 PM #22Derpaderpa
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24th February 2018, 10:03 PM #23
Hey VC, I hope I did not sound like I was telling others what to watch. From all the video recommendations here, it is evident that the range of interests is very wide. Just because I say some of this stuff is from wannabes who really do not have much of a clue, don't let that put you off. The point I was attempting to make was that the newbie to woodworking is in danger of getting the wrong idea of what constitutes good technique.
I'll give you an example. Alec Steele, who is mentioned above, is a very talented blacksmith. He is young, but shows a lot of promise. He also makes a lot of money off YouTube (in the 6 figures), and his mission is to drum up as many subscriptions as possible, since that is how he creates income (he has over 700K followers at this stage). Making videos for YouTube is big money, and it is also big entertainment. I love looking at some of these fellows, and I admire Alec's skills. This is all prelude. I came across a video that was linked to him. Young Alec made a Damascus plane blade, which he then gave to some fellow to build a plane around. In turn, this "plane maker" built a smoother (????) featuring some absolutely gorgeous wood and this amazing looking plane blade. And the plane is an abomination, absolute rubbish design. But the viewers do not understand this. I hope no one attempts to copy this monstrosity ...
I won't say what are the problems here. See if you can recognise them.
Regards from Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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24th February 2018, 10:30 PM #24GOLD MEMBER
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So Derek, you start off with a gutless cheap shot, and then finish off by not having the first clue about a plane built with a 55° bed angle, 30° bevel angle (iirc, maybe it was 25°) and the blade used bevel up being not a "smoother" but a "scraper"? Perhaps watch the video, it's was good entertainment.
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24th February 2018, 11:23 PM #25
Kuffy, you are missing or minimising the issues. And I've watched the full video a couple of times). It is entertainment for some. For others it is misinformation.
Regards from Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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25th February 2018, 01:04 AM #26GOLD MEMBER
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Derek, you have said he made a bad thing. You also suggest that you know what he did wrong but won't tell us. Sounds like a kid "I know something you guys don't! I know something you guys don't". And you also state that the video is misinformation for some. Who the hell is it misinformation for? and what the hell is misinformed during a video about "this is a thing that was made"? Do you believe the thing that was made was not actually made and are now disgruntled because you feel misinformed??????
Not everything on YouTube is a howto instructional video. The videos which are instructional should be taken with a grain of salt because rarely has those videos been edited and crosschecked with others that a. know what they are doing so they can agree or disagree with the information b. checked by a few with varying experience from none, to some, to advanced etc so that what the presenter is putting down is all being picked up correctly and not misinterpreted. It's like school books, I can't say this with certainty because I don't actually know, but I'd be willing to bet every last cent I have that the school books are checked by several people (adults and children) to be suitable teaching aids long before they enter the classroom. Furthermore, there is a teacher in the room to make sure what was being put down was being picked up. If you guessed that I am dead set against online learning, congratulations, you can have a cookie.
There is so much on YouTube like "this is what we did on our holidays in Bali", to "I killed this epic bad dude in this computer game" to "this is a thing I made using wood" to "omg, this multinational corporation sucks!". Picking up what I'm putting down?
The fact that you have watched a monetized video a few times means that the product was a raging success, and the video was the product, not the hand plane which was either poorly built, or was total troll bait.
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25th February 2018, 01:21 AM #27
Kuffy, it sounds like my post touched a nerve. Why are you overreacting so? I am allowed my opinion. I see things that are misinformation. If you - an experienced woodworker - cannot see them, then you make my case. I am not avoiding answering. I just want to see if you - and others - recognise what I do.
Let me ask you - and anyone else who would like to reply - if you were hunting for to-do on a plane to build, would you copy this one? And do you believe that the plane maker is an experienced plane user?
Regards from Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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25th February 2018, 08:10 AM #28Derpaderpa
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If you were learning to drive a car, would you watch Fast and the Furious or seek out an instructor? No where in the video or the metadata around the video does Dustin claim its a tutorial or how-to.
I'm not going to make assumptions on what the OP wanted, or their skill level. There was no request to have detailed instructional videos only, just woodworking related which includes woodworking entertainment.
If you're concerned about beginners getting the wrong idea, I'm not sure Ishitani is a safe recommendation. Yes, he has far more woodworking skill than I'm likely to ever posses, but like Dustin his videos aren't going to teach a beginner anything. Ishitani does "this is what I made" type videos, not "this is how to make". An experienced woodworker can pickup information from both Ishitani and Dustins videos but a beginner is going to have far too many unanswered "why did you do it this way?" questions.
I hope no one attempts to copy this monstrosity ...
There is always the possibility that a DIY/hobbyist can't afford (money/time/whatever) a Scott Meek or similar course and think that it was too difficult, so they've dismissed it. But they could be subscribed to Dustin because they find his videos entertaining
From watching Dustins video, you could conclude basic handplane construction actually too hard, and that it might be worth a crack. However if you start with a 2hr+ video going through the ins and outs, just the video length alone without having the overall view, might intimidate or turn you off the idea.
The DIY/Hobbyist may copy Dustins design to the letter, then find out exactly how it does or doesn't work. Failure can be much more educational than constant success.
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25th February 2018, 09:30 AM #29GOLD MEMBER
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Derek, you have already been pulled up once before in this thread about how videos are what they are and some people like them, and some don't. Perhaps you thought process is actually considered unfair or unreasonable. Couple your unreasonable viewpoint and the fact you were silly enough to shoot off a gutless cheap shot to Paul, then yeah, I'll pull you up on it and I am saddened that others chose silence rather than stepping up, but it is what it is.
I am asking you why is it misinformation, and instead of answering you keep saying "I know something you guys don't". You are saying an awful lot just to say nothing. Perhaps you are hoping for someone to walk into your pathetic trap and answer but to miss a single point just so you can say "ah ha! I told ya it was misinformation, see, see, look how smart I are!!! see!!!!". It is ridiculous. If it is misinformation, then quickly explain in a cool calm collected way without shooting off gutless cheap shots why it is so. If you truly need someone to answer incorrectly first to give the reasoning behind your statement, then you were, once again, out of line with the statement due to lack of knowledge on your part.
And to answer would I copy this one? pfft, hell no. I watch both Alec's and Dustins stuff. When I first saw Alec making a plane blade for Dustin, I thought to myself why? Dustin doesn't use much in the way of hand tools and surely they could have collaborated on something up both their alleys. But with Dustin being a yank, and Alec being a pommy, shipping a plane blade is pretty simple so I can appreciate that. Now Derek, as you have already forgotten, the video is the product to gain more subscribers to gain more views, to gain more shares, to gain more revenue (mulitple six figures for Alec and a big chunk of change for Dustin). The video was a success. Not only has the video had you watch it several times (I have an image in my head of you watching with pen and paper in hand pin pointing everything that was wrong with it ), you have also shared the video gaining more views and probably subscribers. So the product/video is a success from that alone.
Pro tip for you, if you really hate a video and wish it to die a fast painful death. DO NOTHING! If you watch the video in full, youtube loves that. If you engage with the video (thumbs up, thumbs down, comment) youtube loves that. If you share the video, youtube loves that. Youtube is the second biggest search engine in the world (I think), and youtube only pushes videos that youtube loves which is fair enough, it's their coin.
In case you missed it "why is dustins video misinformation?"
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25th February 2018, 11:45 AM #30
Gee wizz, Kuffy, chill .. You will get high blood pressure!
I do not see my comments as being as provocative as you are reacting, and I am certainly not trying to be a smarty pants (that comes naturally .... come on, laugh with me. This is just a discussion, and by next week it will be forgotten.
There is a serious side, in my opinion. I agree with you that a lot of YouTube is entertainment. But a lot is also offering serious advice. The video in question is all about two Masters demonstrating their respective skills. First comes the plane iron, and then comes the plane.
What is the difference between a planemaking video by Scott Meek and this one? If you watch Scott use a hand plane, it is evident that he knows how to hold it, and how to use one. The planemaker in this video has absolutely no clue. He does not even have a bench for holding a board to plane it. Then he scrubs away like a feverish demon, in all directions, rubbing the same spot until he has scraped away the surface ... and proclaims the plane good. So amusing. But not planing.
The plane is intended to be a smoother. Somewhere he has read that a high bed angle is a good thing. The plane is not meant to be a scraper, otherwise one would prepare the blade as a scraper blade (which he did not do - actually, he did not sharpen the blade at all - I wonder if he knew that it needed to be sharpened?). At the end he places the blade in back-to-front. He inadvertantly uses it as a scraper, but I am certain this was not his intention. He cannot tell the difference - the relevance of a gaping mouth does not alert him to the situation.
Here's a heads up - do not make laminated planes - for this one cannot be called a Krenov plane - using a solid rod as a cross piece for the wedge. Especially a metal rod! The rod will dent the wedge, and this will create a spot where the wedge will want to be. It will make it impossible after a while to tighten the wedge. Krenov planes are not simply laminated - that's the part that beginners see, because it is easy. The essence of a Krenov plane lies with the triangular design of the cross piece. It rotates to take up the shape/angle of the wedge, and this always allows the wedge to tighten.
The real issue is not this video. It was just an illustration of what is available these days on YouTube. The real issue is that many cannot tell the difference between good and poor. If many woodworkers receive their instruction these days from videos, then it is the reponsibility of experienced woodworkers to guide them to appropriate material. Fori, such as this, are no different, and we would be pulled up here if we offered poor advice. Do you agree?
Regards from Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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