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12th September 2010, 10:05 PM #1Member
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Vacuum Pumps?
Hi Guys,
I am looking into ordering one of the EVS Vacuum press kits from Joewoodworker.com. The one thing I am a little stuck on is the heart of the system, the pump. I have noticed a few el cheapo pumps on eBay which claim to be up around 4 CFM though the pumps honeslty look like they would last a week or two. It also seems like they will give out an exhaust from the oil use, I am using epoxy in my laminating so the exhaust in the workshop after 12-24hrs of curing time will be to much. I will mainly be laminating veneer to veneer in 2ply lay ups but would like to be able to able to do mulitple pieces in the bag each time it is pressed. Do any of you know of any reliable/affordable and versitle pumps/suppliers out there which will suit the EVS system. I am looking at using a 4x8 foot bag. Eventually I will be doing curved laminations also. Would a piston pump be best suited for my needs?
Thanks for any advice.
Steve
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13th September 2010, 03:24 PM #2Intermediate Member
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Hi Steve,
I built one of those kits and I got a good quality used pump from a fellow on the Australia/New Zealand Luthiers Forum. Not sure if he has any left but here is a link Australian/New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Vacuum pumps / Second Hand
Cheers
Rick
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13th September 2010, 09:32 PM #3Member
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13th September 2010, 09:52 PM #4Intermediate Member
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I have the pump system working fine but have no bags yet. I didn't realize until I went to order the bags that you can't ship the big bags here by post because of the length. I'm off to Canada on the weekend so I'm planning on bring them back then. It's a good kit Joe supplies and the instructions were a snap to follow.
Rick
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13th September 2010, 09:56 PM #5Member
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13th September 2010, 10:07 PM #6Intermediate Member
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It was the length of the pipe closure pieces that were restricting the size of the bag they could ship here. I'm sure you can make them I just haven't bothered looking into it since I was making the trip and can bring them back.
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13th September 2010, 11:40 PM #7
CHeck out here:
Rivergum Timbers - Large Vacuum Pump
They also have a range of vacuum bags upto 2400*1200 in their kits and accessories section
Regards LouJust Do The Best You Can With What You HAve At The Time
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15th September 2010, 11:32 PM #8Member
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Sounds good Rick. I think I will get my bag through Rivergum (thanks for the link Lou) I just recently bought a stack of nice figured red gum and blackheart sassafras veneer from them. They were great to deal with. I actually managed to pick up one of the second hand pumps that Rick suggested so I will start with that and if everything works out as planned I will go for the the bigger pump from rivergum down the track. The second hand Thomas pump should be fine for now.
Off the top of your head, How many 2ply sheets do you think I could stack in the back and press at the one time while still getting a nice tight even bond. Eg.
From Bottom, Platen - veneer/veneer - wax paper - veneer/veneer - wax paper - veneer/veneer - breather mesh.
*wax paper to stop the 2ply sheets from bonding together from any squeeze out or bleed through
The veneer leaves I will be pressing are usually between 200-250mm wide and 1200mm long. So depending on the width of the bag I could potentially have 2-3 stacks. Do you think this would be effective and on the top would you think I would be better off having a platen than breather mesh?
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