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Thread: Plan for my new Shed
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30th December 2004, 11:18 AM #1
Plan for my new Shed
I will be building a new garage later this year that will double as my new shed. The garage will be 10m x 5m and I need to be able to get my tinny and a small car in it when I'm not making sawdust. I've attached a plan, don't have all the tools shown but thought I'd plan ahead, comments / advice welcome, the red dots are power points. The blue lines show where I intend to run dust extraction.
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30th December 2004, 11:55 AM #2Retired
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Not enough power points.
When we built ours I had power points every 4' down each wall. We have addedabout 6 more since. Put them behind the storage racks, sheds have a habit of "evolving" as things change.
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30th December 2004, 12:01 PM #3
Thanks , how's this..
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30th December 2004, 12:02 PM #4
Happy,
A couple of points I can see so far.
The fire extinguisher and first aid kit are miles from the door. Place them near the door so you can use them in an emergency without running through smoke, fire etc.
The Planer/thicknesser needs to be moved so you can run long boards through it. Same with the bandsaw.
Did you want to be able to use all your work bench or just one side of it? If so, move it so you can work around it.
Were you planning on having an assembly bench, a finishing bench etc?
Great to plan it now though.
Where are you going to store your handplanes?- Wood Borer
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30th December 2004, 12:07 PM #5Retired
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Much better.
Rob I think that is a tilta door and it should always be open when working for safety reasons. But of course in Sydney they don't have our glorious working outdoors type weather.
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30th December 2004, 12:21 PM #6
Thanks Borer,
The right hand side of the picture is a garage door which isn't obvious so the FE and FAK should be OK.
My thinking on the Planer was that I could lower the table of the Bandsaw out of the way or to the height of the planer and that stock would go out of the roller door. I admit that feeding the Bandsaw might be a problem if re-sawing something wide. Also the main workbench would be on casters so that I can pull it out to the middle of the shed, I guess you'd say it's in its stored position in the picture.
A finishing bench would be nice but I have to be able to store it to get the boat and car in the garage.
Once I have my handplanes they'll be going in the most secure part of the shed as I have a feeling I'll grow to love them .
BTW, the duct extraction will be running on the ceiling in case that isn't clear either.
HH.Always look on the bright side...
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30th December 2004, 12:21 PM #7
Sorry , I was basing my thinking on my own high standards that I use for my shed. Everything clean, in it's place and tidy!!!!
Yep it is a roller/tilta door - after coming in from outside I can hardly see due to the stunning sunlight.- Wood Borer
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30th December 2004, 01:27 PM #8
Hammer, why not make the bandsaw/planer so it can be "rolled out" from the wall by a couple ft, you could set the tracks for it to roll on in the concrete when its poured.
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30th December 2004, 01:31 PM #9
Sounds a bit permanent Harry :eek:
Out of interest though what kind of tracks, these things are at least 150Kg aren't they? How do you ensure it stays level over the years?
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30th December 2004, 01:40 PM #10
Just get a couple of heavy duty mobile bases. I've got one under my tablesaw, which weighs about 180kg. Then you can roll them wherever you want to.
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30th December 2004, 02:09 PM #11
Hammer, you could use heavy gauge M/S angle(10mm). We use tracks like this at work... carrying over 25000Kg!(allthough they have huge support from the floor underneath, 1.5" thick chequer plate with 2' H iron under that at 450mm spacing...)
You'd set it in a trench so the rails are level with the floor(no trip), a peice of wood thats been oiled inserted in the concrete while its still mud. Once the concrete is cured short 8mm dyna bolts would easily hold it in place. You can get steel wheels just for this purpose(dunno where tho?), make frames up to fit your machines then make some sort of stop(lock bolt though the wheels is what we use at work, simple stuff!).
When you box up for the mud make the area around your heavy machines thicker(deeper)by a couple of "s. Thats if your paranoid remembering most sheds have 4-5" of concrete that we park 1-2000Kg of car on!
Set up properley it would only take a push with 1 finger to move it!(at work we can push 25t with a light shunt with a 2.5 Forklift, only because its hot and youd burn yourself if you touched it...)....................................................................
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30th December 2004, 09:54 PM #12
Happy,
Consider moving the bench grinder to where you have the drill press and the drill press to where you have the mobile clamps. The mobile clamps to wherever you have space at any particular point in time....otherwise the stand needn't be mobile.
The reason for the grinder move is that when turning, wood or metal one uses a grinder often for sharpening.....so having the grinder next to the headstock saves a lot of miles on your shoes. A drill press is a fairly independant bit of gear, so no harm moving it further along the wall.
I am re-setting up my shop at present and i am putting my clamps, metalwork gear ie. cold saw, 8" grinder for general grinding, mig and also stick welders, metal lathe, dedicated 6" grinder for sharpening metal lathe & milling tools and drills, milling machine plus drill press along one long wall. My band saw, 2 x woodlathes, 8 " grinder with my turning tool grinding jig, assorted small machines etc along the opposite long wall and other machines like table saw, planer, router table etc in the middle of the floor. The far end wall has shelves and cupboards for storage and the opposite shorter wall has a roller door and in the remaining wall space next to the r/door, I have my bench. For safety reasons I have a steel welding table outside next to the roller door under an awning to minimise fire risk while welding and cutting. My shed is a dedicated workshop of 6 m x 9 m and I have a 6 m x 8 m patio roof attached to the rollerdoor wall, which gives me heaps of space to work outside but under cover. My cyclone and seperate chip seperator drum is outside the shed but under the awning. It is remotely switched on with a radio controlled phob ( like a car alarm phob ) and contactor box that I made up. This enables me to turn the DC on/off from anywhere in my shop. I have used 150 mm pvc stormwater pipe and fittings to plumb in the cyclone. This will be finalised next monday/tuesday.
Hope this helps you and any comments on my placings will be welcome.
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30th December 2004, 10:56 PM #14Originally Posted by echnidna
Like living in a giant air conditioner it is... (but sometimes the condensate waste blocks and it gets a bit damp)
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31st December 2004, 08:01 AM #15
We actually got up to 21 degrees at 2pm yesterday. Nice and sunny this morning, I think it's going to be a hot one.
Looks like all those damp tourists are going to dry out and want to stay now"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."