wich adhesive to use

**colbra** · 18th August 2004, 05:43 PM

I have been using PVA adhesive for general woodworking projects, and I was wondering if there was some other type of adhesive that I could use that would have a shorter setting time and with a high bonding strength that would dry clear and clean with damp rag. The other problem I was having was with super glue not sure of brand “could be the problem” any how this is what happened. I was using some super glue on another project the other day (gluing small pieces of wood) the tube was opened new for this job but there seemed to be some problem with it as it did not bond at all I am not sure how old the adhesive was is there a short shelf life for this type of adhesive, even if its not opened maybe there is a book that I can purchase on adhesives and there applications could any one out there help with this one

Regards Colbra

**Dean** · 18th August 2004, 06:20 PM

I don't think you can go wrong with Titebond II - It's about $10 for a 500ml bottle from Carbatec or other good woodworking outlets.

Good and strong... open time of 5 minutes or so with a good bond. Dries clear and cleanup with damp rag. I leave it to set for at least 2 hours, but longer is always better. Overnight on panel glue ups.

**outback** · 18th August 2004, 07:55 PM

I've just started using titebond II myself. Nothing too techo that any old chewy wouldn't hold so not much of a test.
i did however, do a bit of research beforehand. Most people, once they have tried, seem to stick with it.

(OOOOOOOH that was bad)

**AlexS** · 18th August 2004, 10:31 PM

Check out the AV Syntec site and download their data sheet - gives you the best of their adhesives to use for different circumstances.
I think they're on the suppliers link from Ubeaut's home page.

**soundman** · 18th August 2004, 11:05 PM

Ther is a huge range out there once you look past the satndard handyman offerings. Just moving to some of the higher performance PVA's will make you happier.

that said bog type PVA realy does a good job and has many redeeming features.

as said before check out AV syntec.
there are a few people arround that like AV180 which is a yellow glue (doesn't dry clear) for good reason.
you can get AV syntec stuff form a number of places, laminex, lincon sentry,and others.

super glue is funny stuff It doen't go off in the same way as other glues.
put some on two impervious surfaces slap em together & it'll go off instantly(sort of) but put a blob on the top of the bench & it will stay liquid for ages, waiting for you to lean in it & glue yourself to the bench.

aparantly the most compatable surface for superglue is clean skinn???

cheers

**Grunt** · 18th August 2004, 11:08 PM

Anyone use Clagg?

**AlexS** · 19th August 2004, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by Grunt

Anyone use Clagg?

Yep. for temporary gluing of two pieces, clagg on either side of a piece of paper is the go. Can be separated and cleaned up with water later.

Re superglue, I think it cures due to lack of oxygen, so that may explain its odd characteristics.

**Iain** · 19th August 2004, 02:35 PM

Clag is great for glue sniffers who don't want to become addicted

Haven't tried Titebond but I will soon, I have always used Weldbond white or yellow and haven't encountered any problems.
That said, someone told me it is useless after it has been subjected to very low temperatures, but living in sub tropical Gippsland that is never going to be an issue

**Wood Borer** · 19th August 2004, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Iain

Clag is great for glue sniffers who don't want to become addicted

Haven't tried Titebond but I will soon, I have always used Weldbond white or yellow and haven't encountered any problems.
That said, someone told me it is useless after it has been subjected to very low temperatures, but living in sub tropical Gippsland that is never going to be an issue

Ian,

Are you a sniffer of glue? No headaches or nose bleeds from the weldbond?

How long does the high last for you? Does is make you hallucinate about hand planes?

I'm not into this snort of thing myself but I guess everyone is different

- Wood Borer (sorry I couldn't help myself)

**Iain** · 19th August 2004, 03:15 PM

[QUOTE=Wood Borer]Ian,

I'm not into this snort of thing myself

SNORT? , pun intended?

**Wood Borer** · 19th August 2004, 03:36 PM

Iain,

Apologies for spelling your name incorrectly in the previous post.

Yes it was intentional - one of my rare flashes of humour today.

- Wood Borer

**Iain** · 19th August 2004, 03:39 PM

Anyway, snort is a naval term for replenishing air in a submarine via a snorkel whilst at periscope depth.
My piece of trivia for the day

**Different** · 19th August 2004, 10:43 PM

put a blob on the top of the bench & it will stay liquid for ages, waiting for you to lean in it & glue yourself to the bench.

aparantly the most compatable surface for superglue is clean skinn???

cheers[/QUOTE]
Simple answer Soundman Superglue cures with exposure to moisture and human skin is full of it. If you want to speed up a superglue bond introduce a small amount of moisture to the joint. By small I mean for example on timber exhale on the joint like you were trying to fog up a mirror half a dozen times bring the 2 bits together and wham it is stuck.

**Sprog** · 20th August 2004, 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by Grunt

Anyone use Clagg?

I use it to attach paper patterns to timber for scroll sawing and intarsia projects.

For timber I use Titebond II which is very good, the Triton glue is also good and not too expensive.

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