Thread: Wiring the Shed

find a electrican, tell them what you want, dont do it yourself

All electrical instalations in the ACT have to be installed by a licenced Electrican.
End of story.
Judging by your questions I don't recomend you even think about doing it your self.
Regards

Actually tomorrow I'll be doing the pre wiring of my daughters workshop and wiring up a shed is not very difficult, but doing it incorrectly could electrocute someone. Not necessarily you but one of your loved ones who may inadvertently touch something that's wired incorrectly.

As I firmly believe that if you have to ask how to do it you're not qualified enough to do it so that's why you should employ an electrician.

Peter.

Wow even a disclaimer...................

Thanks for the helpful advice.

So is there anyone about that has a clue about this subject want to inject themselves into the conversation ?

Originally Posted by aussie260z

Wow even a disclaimer...................

Thanks for the helpful advice.

So is there anyone about that has a clue about this subject want to inject themselves into the conversation ?

Take some of the helpful advice and get a licensed electrician to do the necessary work.

Hey There,

I found a Tame Sparky who told me how to do the monkey work, (Running Conduit, and Securing Power point bases and mounting the Fluros on the Roof Beams) then he come in and connected everything, saved me about 9 hours of his charges,

HazzaB

http://www.ess.govt.nz/templates/Mul...____18598.aspx

(Link is giving me a server error at the moment - it should resolve itself in a while)

This is the 'How to do it yourself' guide to DIY electrical work in New Zealand (the NZ part of AS/NZS3000, so their electrical system is the same as ours).

NZ started allowing homeowners to do their own work in the mid 90's, leaving Australia as the only first world country (that I can find) that still has it as a restricted trade.

It should give you a good general outline (as well as terminology other than the weird american ones!!...just ignore the Maori terms!!).

If you know how to use bittorrent, you can also get a lot of info by downloading the 'aus electrical and telecommunication rules' torrent.

If you are really, money spendingly keen, pop into your local TAFE bookstore and pick up the two part Electrical Wiring Practice, 7th edition (Pethebridge and Neeson)

First what are you running that will need 32 amps?

Ross

So why do electricans have to serve a 3 year apprenticeship and TAFFE corse and then sit a 3 part licence test to get a licenced, if anyone can just brouse the net and buy a couple of books?
Wake up to your selves and think about it.
Like any other subject the more you find out about it the more you realise how much you still need to know.

Good stuff Master Splinter - I will look through that Link!

I was actually thinking of doing that with the TextBooks - I am a TAFE student in the evenings working my way through a Engineering Cert, so maybe I could get a discount on the books.

First what are you running that will need 32 amps?

MIG, TIG, Air Compressor, Plasma Cutter (Sometimes the last two together) - I actually only really do Metal work and Automotive work, just through more people would read this thread in the WoodWorking area.

When I got the sparky to install the fuse, cable and Powerpoint to the shed it needed a section of the conduit burried under concrete for various reasons, so I wanted to go overkill because it is a bit tricky to change the thickness of the cable afterwards.

I was pushing for 50amp's and 10mm wire - but the Sparky said I will be fine with 6mm and 32amps, and so far, he has been right.

So..................

Was thinking I prefer the idea of just adding in a few Powerpoints instead of a Sub-Panel. That seems over the top. Therefore, I am right to just tee off and run in sequence a few additional Powerpoints from the original Powerpoint?

If you electrocute someone you go to jail, if your house or shed burns down as a result of your electrical work your house and contents insurance is void. Simple, don't be tight. Yes it is a simple job, but do you know how to electrically test the circuits once connected to ensure that it complies with section 8 in the rule book? It is not worth the risk.

Hi
After reading through the NZ Regulations you are not allowed to make any work live All you can do is the running of the wires , positioning of the power points ,however it must be connected to existing circuits & checked /signed of by a qualified Electrician
So please heed all the advise you receive & get an Electrician involved with with any
electrical before & after you do any thing your self

Just my thoughts on this subject

Cheers Rod

Originally Posted by Master Splinter

http://www.ess.govt.nz/templates/Mul...____18598.aspx


This is the 'How to do it yourself' guide to DIY electrical work in New Zealand (the NZ part of AS/NZS3000, so their electrical system is the same as ours).

NZ started allowing homeowners to do their own work in the mid 90's, leaving Australia as the only first world country (that I can find) that still has it as a restricted trade.

It should give you a good general outline (as well as terminology other than the weird American ones!!...just ignore the Maori terms!!).


If you are really, money spendingly keen, pop into your local TAFE bookstore and pick up the two part Electrical Wiring Practice, 7th edition (Pethebridge and Neeson)

While you are buying the books get a copy of the ASA3000 wireing rules.
You will probably ignore them but at least you will know when you are pushing your luck.
There are many things outside the rules that work, that is why other countries rules are so diferent but the experts on the various pannels draw them up so that every one in their country is on the same page and know what the guy before has done. Changing circuits outside the rules is a recipy for future desarster or at least problems.
You wanted some one who has a clue on the subject, today is the aniversary of when I sarted my 5 year apprentiship on 3 Jan 1956 and went through all the tests to get my ACT licence in 1983 when I came to Australia so I could have a clue or two which I suspect is more tham some who are advising you to ignore the rules.

I'd go with what HazzaB suggested - find a tame sparky who is happy to have you do the grunt work (running conduit, cables, etc.)....then he comes in and does all the terminations, etc.

Best compromise IMHO

You save a bit of money, and nobody gets hurt......