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18th July 2009, 11:23 AM #1
Wooden bows
Howdy folks, I have been making wooden bows and related archery tackle for 25 years or so, and over on the wooden boat forum some of the fellows expressed an interest in the topic. Rather than clogging up that forum with off topic posts, I'm starting a new thread over here where we can discuss the craft of bowyery. If anyone else here makes their own archery tackle, feel free to post your knowledge and images of your work. I'll start off with a few pictures of some stuff I have done.
The first set of images are of a hickory American flatbow, draw weight of 65# @ 29 1/2" of draw. Rattlesnake skin backing with waterbuffalo horn nock overlays. Braced, unbraced, detail of nock overlays, and an image of my friend Captain Pat I****, a battalion surgeon stationed in Camp Taji, Iraq with the bow and another made of bamboo backed Ipe.
Next up is a longbow made from Hawaiian guava, the stave a gift from a friend who lives there. This bow is 80# draw weight at 29 1/2" of draw. Nock overlays are of purpleheart.
This bow is and English type longbow, made from Osage Orange. It is 113# @ 29 1/2" of draw.
Unfortunately, many images were stored on my old computer which died, taking those images with it. I have some others as well, but this should get the ball rolling. Feel free to ask questions, I'll try to answer them to the best of my ability.
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18th July 2009, 08:26 PM #2
Great pic Rick. As I said in the other thread, I rode my bike past a bunch of people at the North Adelaide Archery range - a club day.
I noticed that while everyone was shooting with carbon fibre bows with micrometer controls, counterbalances and sights .. that the best guys (standing furthest from the targets had a wooden bow in a rack beside their gear.
My camera battery took that moment to go flat.
MIK
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18th July 2009, 08:26 PM #3
Great pic Rick. As I said in the other thread, I rode my bike past a bunch of people at the North Adelaide Archery range - a club day.
I noticed that while everyone was shooting with carbon fibre bows with micrometer controls, counterbalances and sights .. that the best guys (standing furthest from the targets had a wooden bow in a rack beside their gear.
My camera battery took that moment to go flat.
MIK
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18th July 2009, 08:31 PM #4
That first one's a beauty
Ever do any Reflex Deflex?
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18th July 2009, 11:18 PM #5Skwair2rownd
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Agree with FC on that first Bow. It's a beauty.
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18th July 2009, 11:27 PM #6
I would love to have a go at making a bow, I still have my little fibre glass 28lb bow I used at school. I get it out now and then and have a few shots and put it away again. Is that one rattle snake or two?
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18th July 2009, 11:37 PM #7SENIOR MEMBER
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That's some nice looking gear you have put together.
I am privileged in that I am one of the few people who have been trained in Archery by Australia's only Grand Master Bowman.
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19th July 2009, 01:40 AM #8
Thanks for the kind words guys. FC, making a wooden bow with a R/D profile similar to a modern fiberglass bow requires it to be laminated from two or more slats of wood. In pure wood, the performance generally isn't any better than a simple straight single stave longbow and the net result is alot of extra work for really no gain save the satisfaction of doing it. I've done it, but I much prefer the simple "primitive" bow. The last two bows pictured are , except for the nock overlays which is a rather modern trick, perhaps the oldest design of bow in existence, a simple straight stave design dating back 10,000 years or more.
MIK, yup, real archers shoot wooden bows
Claw Hama, that is a pair of snakeskins, one for each limb.
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19th July 2009, 09:13 AM #9
Great Rick, any special things you look for in your wood that are the tricks of the trade? I might look up which Australian woods are good bow stock and have a go. What sort of strings do you use and do you make them yourself?
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19th July 2009, 07:35 PM #10GOLD MEMBER
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G,day just wonder if you have talked to texas river rat over in sparkeys forum .
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20th July 2009, 02:48 AM #11
First off, I'll state that darn near any type of wood with suitable density (.50 or greater) has the potential to be a good bow wood. There are exceptions of course. With broadleaf hard woods, I look for thick annual growth rings as they are generally the denser pieces of wood. Even more importantly WRT growth rings, I look for a high ratio of late growth as compared to the early growth within those rings. With the few softwood conifers that have the density to make a good bow, the thinner, tighter the rings, the better as these are generally the denser pieces. Straight knot free wood is always a bonus, but you can make a fine bow from twisty knotty wood if you know how to work with it. Here is an Oregon vine maple bow I made some years back that was really knot filled. Made a darn good shooting bow.
As for Australian timber that suitable for bows, the only ones that I can identify by name and that I have actually worked with are Spotted gum and Black ironbark, though I do know for sure that there are others, I just couldn't tell you what they are. There are a number of eucalyptus species that are exotic imports growing here in California, and most are poor bow woods save for the two I previously named. I make my own strings, for day in day out shooting I generally use B-50 dacron bowstring material and also good quality linen thread. If I want a real authentic oogabooga cave man string for a neolithic style bow I have made them up from thin rawhide, sinew (tendon) and twisted gut.
Texx, if it's the Sparkey from Texas I'm thinking of, yes, I know him from a couple of archery forums. He has a bow I made him some time back
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20th July 2009, 03:59 AM #12
Oops, I see that you were asking if I knew a fellow with the handle "river rat". I know of a guy who used that handle, given name Tony, though I recall he was from somewhere other than Texas, but I could be wrong. Don't know if it is the same fellow or not, and I haven't seen him online for quite some time.
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20th July 2009, 10:30 AM #14
Thanks for for the tips Rick, now I just need to slot a bit of time aside.
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20th July 2009, 10:55 AM #15
Nice bows there Rick.
Every so often someone posts about bows on here and they are woodwork and we all like to see wood put to a good use. I have posted bows on here too over the years. I think the last thread here was in June when someone asked about building one. I guess what I am saying is archery only raises a passing interest on here. Most of the bowyers in Oz will be hanging hereOzbow - Australian Traditional Bowhunting Forums.
I am not saying dont post bows on here as we still like to have a look but the Ozbow mob will give you real honest bow making feedback.
Regards
John
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