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4th February 2021, 03:31 PM #1SENIOR MEMBER
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Making wooden vise screws
Hi All
I recently got curious about wooden vise screws and decided to investigate the feasibility of making my own.
I have a good understanding of the process - make a tap to cut a nut and then using the nut and a router to cut the screw. Seems so simple...
As usual down the rabbit hole I went and I have drawn a few blanks on the process.
I know there are some threads on here already but they don’t seem to divulge into the details.
The questions I have (so far) are:
- When making nuts should the cutter be pushed or pulled though the nut?
- What shape should the cutting edge on the tap be? (ie neutral, positive or negative)
- How is the cutter held in place? (Wedge, grub screw ect)
- What angle should the thread be 90 or 60 degrees?
- When cutting the thread is the router set to cut full depth in a single pass?
Any help appreciated!
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4th February 2021, 03:58 PM #2
Forum member and part time author Ian Wilkie (IanW) is the man to follow; he wrote an article on making wooden threads for Australian Wood Review spread over issues 92 and 93. If you google “Ian Wilkie Wooden Threads” you’ll also find a couple of YouTube videos of him manufacturing them.
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4th February 2021, 06:15 PM #3SENIOR MEMBER
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Thanks Tiff, although I watched Ian’s videos but he doesn’t go in to much detail.
Do you know if the wood review article is more in depth?
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4th February 2021, 07:41 PM #4
Yes; the articles provide enough info to build your own jigs and produce your own threads.
Issues - Australian Wood Review
You may be able to purchase the two back issues; I don’t know if they would be sold by AWR itself or by Yaffa Media.Nothing succeeds like a budgie without a beak.
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5th February 2021, 11:07 AM #5
Fully agree with Chief Tiff's recommendations; Ian is very helpful. He has also posted on this Forum - so do some searching.
Back copies of Wood Review are probably available in your local public library.
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5th February 2021, 12:38 PM #6SENIOR MEMBER
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Yeah I get the wood review digitally through a free service the library offers but unfortunately it doesn’t quite go back to those issues so I might have to go and see them.
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5th February 2021, 08:53 PM #7
I felt the AWR articles were severely curtailed for editorial space.
It seemed like Ian had much more to say, but it was chopped off.
IanW has done a lot of work in showing the technique, but Id agree with the OP that there is an important element missing in the creation of the nut.
Perhaps its my imagination.
He has, as far as I can tell, done the most of anyone worldwide to promote the art and skill.
I'd really love to see (or even make!) an article or video on this.... Ive two of his enormous screws and they are so sacred to me that they are on display for every guest to see! They are more than tools, they are art.
I believe I save the articles as PDFs. Let me dig them from under the sedimentary layers of woodshavings here....
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5th February 2021, 09:17 PM #8
IanWs wood thread making PDFs
Hope this is OK - here are the PDFs.
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5th February 2021, 09:52 PM #9SENIOR MEMBER
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Wow thanks Woodpixel!!
Looks like I have some reading to do. At a glance it looks promising, I will get back with my findings.
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6th February 2021, 03:08 PM #10
google
I googled making wooden bolts and nuts and got heaps of responses, including multiple videos, but no idea of their relative quality. Wisdom or BS ????
One hit laid out a number of different thread profiles - no idea which is best for wooden screws - but it seems worth considering.
Thread Types.jpg
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6th February 2021, 03:26 PM #11The person who never made a mistake never made anything
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6th February 2021, 06:08 PM #12SENIOR MEMBER
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Thanks guys, looks like Ian recommends a 60degree sharp V. Has a 5degree relief on the cutter.
I think there is enough there to give it a try, will update here as I go.
Also this series of videos is quite good:
Tap And Screw Jig Tutorial - Part One - YouTube
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6th February 2021, 07:12 PM #13
Well done all, what a great thread.
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8th February 2021, 07:20 PM #14SENIOR MEMBER
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Had some time this arv so I made a cutter for the tap. I only had a 90deg router bit so I’m just going to give it a go even though Ian suggests 60deg.
I am planning on a 2” screw at 2 TPI so I made the cutter 1/2” wide.
I used an old HSS drill bit, bit of grinding and final shaping on the pro sharp and it came up pretty nice.
I also started on the tap screw. I had a piece of recycled iron bark in the right size. It has a few nail holes but they shouldn’t affect the operation. Waiting on some Forster bit which I will get some exact measurements of before taking the tap down to the final size.
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8th February 2021, 07:37 PM #15
Big-arsed wooden presses like olive, grape and apple presses used 90 degree threads so you’re not bucking tradition!
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