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6th March 2015, 10:41 AM #1Intermediate Member
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Woodmate filler problem
What would make this filler crack?
Filled a piece a week ago with no issues, sanded it back and filled a couple of bits that had sunk and now they've all cracked when dried
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6th March 2015, 11:25 AM #2SENIOR MEMBER
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Never used it myself.
Try Builder's bog turbo dries in minutes with no cracking, you can mix with cement colouring oxides to obtain almost any colour, Best thing is it dries in minutes, have been using it for a couple of years.
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6th March 2015, 02:00 PM #3
My one and only experience with Timbermate made me swear off it for life. They claim "doesn't shrink" and in my case that was right - just the opposite happened. When I oiled my bench it expanded (and continues to do so). A pain in the butt.
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6th March 2015, 02:19 PM #4
I've always been happy with Timbermate filler.I'd just put a bit more on and give it another chance.
Don't know why it cracked, maybe a bit dried out when applied? Or maybe not pushed in firmly enough?The time we enjoy wasting is not wasted time.
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6th March 2015, 02:56 PM #5GOLD MEMBER
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taken right from the tub of timbermate putty "does not sink, shrink, crack or fall out."
I use the stuff, though i try to avoid having to use it in the first place because it always ends up looking like a dogs breakfast regardless of how well you colour match. It does sink, it does shrink, and since it does both of those it sure as hell does crack. its not very good for filling large holes, because of the sinkage, shrinkage and crackage. It also has "unlimited shelf life" which means it never really sets or cures, it just hardens as it drys out, water and oil will reverse this process, which also makes it swell back up again. once it is sealed with a cured finish its very stable.
its an extremely good filler for hairline cracks. the trick to it tho is to force it into the cracks. dont use your spongy fingers otherwise you end up just bridging the cracks rather than filling full depth, use something hard. a plastic putty knife, icypole stick. dont use a steel putty knife because often the steel stains the putty with a grey colour. high fill and let it harden, dry out, fully before sanding it back.
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6th March 2015, 03:13 PM #6China
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I used to have problems with timbermate solved all the problems years ago, gathered it all together and dropped in the nearest bin
never had any trouble since
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6th March 2015, 05:18 PM #7SENIOR MEMBER
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What do you use to fill, China?
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6th March 2015, 07:40 PM #8Intermediate Member
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both times I've used it I have used it with a Purdy 1.5" putty knife
first time worked a treat, second time it all cracked and even cracked through the original application.
I used about 95% of a 2kg tub.
I'm a bit too poor to buy new wood so was using reclaimed stuff but needed it smooth and the reclaimed stuff was full of grooves.
Really odd, next time I might give that builders bog turbo a go, havent seen it yet.
and for those that may wonder, this is what I was using it for.
My first large wood project.... was never meant to be pretty and this is most the way done.
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6th March 2015, 08:24 PM #9SENIOR MEMBER
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7th March 2015, 12:47 AM #10China
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I use Rustins or Wattyl for new work and Rustins wax sticks for repair
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7th March 2015, 07:05 AM #11
Nice one Brettles, I like the look of that, a very handy bit of storage, and it's always good to see old used timber put to good use.
Strange how the filler worked fine the first time you used it but cracked up the second time. I wonder what was different the second time - application method, putty condition, moisture content, humidity, temperature, who knows? The good thing about Timbermate is it's very forgiving so no harm done, just fill the cracks.
How are you going to finish it. If you apply a clear finish the wood will darken to some degree while the filler will stay the same colour which makes it stand out more. If painting it doesn't matter.The time we enjoy wasting is not wasted time.
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7th March 2015, 08:41 AM #12Intermediate Member
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Actually going to stain it, we have some leftover stain from when aldi had it. Quite decent stuff came up a treat on our outdoor furniture an done best thing is that's it's not costing extra to get it
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7th March 2015, 03:54 PM #13Intermediate Member
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yeah i doubt ill be buying TimberMate again
this is what happened when I started applying stain today.
seemed like as soon as the stain hit the filler it would clag up and start lifting.
sorted it out for today but really didnt expect to have this much trouble with something that does not sink, shrink, crack or fall out and should stain well. oh well, lesson learnt.
and just to add, this is 3 days after the timbermate was applied last
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8th March 2015, 11:06 PM #14
I think you're supposed to stain the filler before filling the voids
regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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9th March 2015, 07:37 AM #15Intermediate Member
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Well there you go.... my inexperience shining through brightly there haha
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