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    Clear felling old growth is just the tip of the iceburg mate and you should do all you can to stop it but there is much worse happening...
    Its true, human beings have started an extinction event by our sheer cleverness and success. We have defeated our predators, discovered fossil fuels and our population has exploded over the earth. Unfortunately our sheer stupidity has seen us destroy vast amounts of the biosphere and that destruction looks like it may be about to run out of control.If it does none of us have a chance. Everybody should read "The Weathermakers" by (Australian of the Year) Prof. Tim Flannery and you will begin to get a bit of the big picture, then read "Six Degrees" by Mark Lynas and that will scare the crap out of you. Briefly...the worlds atmosphere is at nearly 400 ppm of CO2 now. About a third of that put there by human activity since the beginning of the industrial age. This CO2 ensures that we will have about a 2C. increase in global average temperature. Thats the best case scenario, a few more cyclones, a few more droughts and polar bears disappear in the wild. However if the world continues to pour CO2 into the atmosphere at current rates or increasing rates then the picture get horribly worse. Positive feedbacks begin. CO2 starts coming out of soils, methane hydrates start to evaporate in the tundra, the icecaps melt, the oceans rise more than 100 metres and life as we know it... civilisation... ceases to exist.
    The crazy thing is that the earth got that hot at the end of the Permian age about two hundreds and fifty million years ago and ninety-five percent of the life on earth disappeared. That time it took ten thousand years to get that hot. This time it will take less than two hundred years. The window of opportunity to contain runaway global warming is closing rapidly. We probably have less than ten years to act to turn the situation around so put on your thinking and doing caps fellas because what you do really matters right now. Take a good look at the kids and grandkids and see what you can do to use less power, less oil and make your politicians wake up. This is the greatest threat we have ever faced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by astrid View Post
    what I dont understand is why Gunns need to clearfell and pulp old growth timber in tas when there is so much plantatoin pine grown in vic and i assume elsewhere,
    surly it makes better sense to judicially cut high value old growth timber to sell as premium manufacturing timber, than to go to the expence of felling this stuff for pulp.
    The plantation stuff is much easier to get to and transport?

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    Let's just say I know a few thing's about pulp and pulpmill's . You cant make eucy pulp from pine tree's , you need eucy tree's and yes there is a big difference between eucy pulp and pine pulp , each product is used for many purpose's in the manufacturing of tissue and dunny paper . One thing the greenie's dont tell anyone , is the fact that sawmilling a log leave's you with around 60% of the log as waste , so what do you do with the waste , turn it into chip's for pulp . But the pulpmill bloke's dont tell a lot of thing's either , such as the amount of water they use , one mob used 70meg a day , also a lot of old growth tree's are no good for timber prossesing , just pulp . Then there is the pulpmill waste , prosessing the chip's , either cooking or grinding , then bleaching , washing and so on and lot's of realy nice chemical's used . Cheer's MM

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    Len McCarthy ....... I beleive it is way too late already , population alone is our biggest problem , then getting everyone to do the right thing , forget it , it's not going to happen , many poor people cant even afford to do the right thing , they are busy just trying to staying alive , as for rich country's helping the poor one's , dream on I say , there is just too much resistance , too many flat earth people on both side's of the argument , for or against global warming and then there are all the people around my age not old or young 47 , I heard it all before , ???? I have only got on average 30 year's left to live , what do I care what happen's after that . We needed to start a hundred year's ago , you could imagine what they would have thought back then , if anyone mentioned global warming back then , off to the loony farm with you , not much has changed even now , rich people still control the world . Cheer's MM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Splinter View Post
    the growth rate has dropped some 10% over the last 20 years, and is actually negative in most of central Europe.
    Of course the population in central Europe is falling. They are all moving to ENGLAND, SCOTLAND, and WALES!!!!

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