Thread: Global Warming: Destruction of Australias Forests

well maybe its in the true interest of conservation that we do clearfall

Existing forests won't survive without human intervention due to the projected dramatic reduction in rainfall.

So we ought be introducing suitable seed trees into the forests that will survive & prosper in the new climate. This means that as the old forest dies a new one is springing up to take its place.

Hi warmtone

Yep I share your concern. However, commercial exploitation is a little harsh. Most of the loggers I have meant honestly believe thier practices are sustainable and most are nice down to earth people. I doubt its the last remaining rainforest but might be wrong.

But we are our own worst enemies. We vote for who will give us what we want. how does a politician in a logging community not support them. If they dont they are out on thier butt.

Look at Garrett. i am sure he went into politics with the right heart but his kahoonis were cut off quick smart.

I think we jump on the logging industry a little quickly cause its easy. Trees look nice. But we dont rush down to the docks and protest the latest bunch of citroens or toyotas or whatever that cost the earth tonnes more than the asthetics of losing trees for a while. We dont protest the power man hooking up our houses, or those slime bags at the service station selling us the evil drug carbon.

So I agree with you. Sadly though IMO its all of us slowly killing ourselves. Mother Earth wont worry though, she'll replace us and those we kill off with something else .

cheers

Originally Posted by dazzler

Mother Earth wont worry though, she'll replace us and those we kill off with something else .

Strangely enough, I find that a reassuring sentiment.

Good post there Daz.
You've got your eyes open on the situation IMO.

Here we go again...Bash the Sawmillers by the touchy feely warm & fuzzy brigade.

Originally Posted by glock40sw

Here we go again...Bash the Sawmillers by the touchy feely warm & fuzzy brigade.

No, bash the the mongrel CEO's and multinationals who's only interest is making higher profit margins, regardless of the cost.
Cut down trees by all means, just don't waste them by filling rich bustards pockets.
Clear felling should be stopped, so yes warmtone, some of us do share your concern.

Just as a reverse side, on ABC National Radio the other morning a scientist was saying that in areas of NE Tas where lots of bluegum has been planted on former grazing land that the land is getting dry due to the huge water they consume.

All too complicated for me

The real problem is the human population growth , the human race is like a mouse plague , keep's growing until it is too late and finaly nature take's care of the problem . No one is going to solve the problem until they get the population growth problem under control , what do you reckon the chance's are of that happening? Why do I say population is the real problem , it is very simple , if my planet is 1 acre and has the resource's to support only 10 people and then I think I am going to support 20 people , no brain's needed to work the rest out eh . Cheer's MM

The growth rate of our species peaked in the 1960s and has been dropping since then - the growth rate has dropped some 10% over the last 20 years, and is actually negative in most of central Europe.

Current trends indicate that human population on the planet will level off at about 10 billion in the year 2050.

Originally Posted by Master Splinter

The growth rate of our species peaked in the 1960s and has been dropping since then - the growth rate has dropped some 10% over the last 20 years, and is actually negative in most of central Europe.

Current trends indicate that human population on the planet will level off at about 10 billion in the year 2050.

All I got to say about that , is whoopy doo . That realy give's me a warm feeling . Thank's for the info though , very interesting . Cheer's MM

Im just glad Im not in Tassie, Gunns would give the whole joint a haircut if they could. This issue is verry complicated. Issues to consider,

- wood is a beautiful, versatile material that deserves to be produced for the length of our species stay on the planet
- cutting and processing timber keeps food in the mouths of a lot of people
- recently in NSW the issue has been clearing for pasture, also QLD I believe
- corporations like Gunns are basically ammoral, they have one criteria for existing, profit. If the profit shifted to hamster breeding thats where they would go
- the hardwood at Bunnies is from Gunns, now Im not advocating any knd of boycott, just buying with your morals. I wouldnt buy Gunns shares BTW, lousy return for a lot of risk.

Global warming is a seperate though connected issue Warmtone. It will cause lots of deforestation in certain areas where native species are very closely adapted to their environment. Luckily crapiata, paulownia,etc grow anywhere. Good forage for the cockroaches after they have eaten all of the human corpses......

what I dont understand is why Gunns need to clearfell and pulp old growth timber in tas when there is so much plantatoin pine grown in vic and i assume elsewhere,
surly it makes better sense to judicially cut high value old growth timber to sell as premium manufacturing timber, than to go to the expence of felling this stuff for pulp.
The plantation stuff is much easier to get to and transport?

Astrid

G'day.
Where does it say that Gunns will be clearfelling old growth forests?

I haven't seen that.
Can you please supply creditable links to this?
By creditable I mean not from the environazis with an axe to grind.

Originally Posted by glock40sw

G'day.
Where does it say that Gunns will be clearfelling old growth forests?

I haven't seen that.
Can you please supply creditable links to this?
By creditable I mean not from the environazis with an axe to grind.

for goodness sake don't ask for real links or facts that can be proved lets stick with I knew , or my mate said , or the old....... my brother lived next door to a bloke who worked with a woman who's hushand knew a man who had a sister who was married to a guy who was ordered to cut down a tree at night so the council wouldn't know.
rather than facts , cause the truth ain't nearly as good as "the droppings of male cows"

It sure seems someone is doing it.

http://www.wilderness.org.au/campaig...orests-google/

Got google earth?

http://www.oren.org.au/tassie/data/Tassi_logging.kmz

I've watched hundreds of acres of native forest being destroyed right on the border of the world heritage area in Tasmania. Don't take my word for it though, if you want to see it for yourself, head on down there in late summer and watch the place light up.

woodbe.