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  1. #1
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    Default Flush cut handsaw

    So, there are a plethera of flush cutting handsaws around. Japanese, Pax, veritas etc. Single sided, double, non-sharpening, sharpenable.
    All a bit confusing.
    My plan is for boxes dovetails and cutting off the ends. Not a great of use.
    Any advice for a novice. Pro/con etc.
    Best or worst brands, styles. Carbatec, Timbecon etc.
    All advice gratefully received.
    Lyle.

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    I have a Japanese Kugihiki saw. I think I just bought it from Carbatec.

    The Veritas saw is a type of Kugihiki saw with double sides. I've never felt the need to have two sets of saw teeth.

    None of these saws are resharpenable. I don't see that as an issue. It's not like it will get a ton of use.

    For the purpose of bringing dovetail ends flush; this is not the tool I would usually use. A plane, chisel, and/or sandpaper are the tools I usually use for that task.

    Before I knew about Kugihiki saws, I used to use a Pax veneer saw with an offset handle. It works but nowhere near as well as a Kugihiki saw.

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    I can't really help with brands, as I bought the cheapest flush-cutting saw Lee Valley carried (and it is only a cheap f/c saw) when I was in Canada a decade ago. It still works just fine, leaving a good surface, even though it is missing two or three teeth.

    'Tis non-sharpenable japanese style, so the teeth are rather brittle and will snap if abused. I lightly deburred the snapped edges on the missing teeth so they don't scratch the finish with further use.

    I think that for a beginner I'd recommend pretty much the same thing.

    Single sided, not a multi-purpose, just a simple dedicated f/c saw.

    Japanese style, as I've found that with most f/c's you are best advised to gently hold the blade pressed flat against the cutting surface with one hand, rather than trying to press it flat against the board with the handle, like a spatula. I have more control when pulling the saw with one hand than when pushing, hence my preference.

    Hardened points (unsharpenable) simply to eliminate any potential "is it how it's sharpened or my technique?" issues.

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    My preference is Japanese. I got the Z brand one from Carbatec many years ago, not sure if they still stock them, but I liked it. The biggest pointer is "be gentle", the teeth are fine and you'll rip them off if you try to force the cut. Just let the saw do the work.

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    Hi Lyle

    I hate to admit this, but...... I bought the stanley flush cut saw from the B.G.S. and to be truthful it has been pretty good. 25 bux, 13tpi and reversible handle. Cheap but definately not nasty. I use it for cutting dowels and plugs on furniture projects, so far it hasn't left any teeth score marks on surfaces where I didn't want them. I use mine in a similar manner to that which skew describes above.

    Can't compare it to any of the others recommended by other members as it is the only one I have ever used.

    My 2c worth

    Regards
    Twosheds

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    Thanks for the very helpful replies.
    I now have a clearer picture of what I'll get.
    Now to chase the best, affordable, available, nearest supplier.
    Lyle

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    Thanks again for your helpful replies.
    Bit the bullet and ordered this one. I tagged on with a mates Amazon order, he gets free postage too.
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