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2nd June 2018, 01:29 PM #1
KOITOYA Japanese plane and chisel course
I am at the KOITOYA Japanese plane and chisel making course in Sydney. Lunch break Day 1 of 5, so far so good....
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So so far we have fettled and fitted the hoop to the (supplied but unfettled ) chisel.
flettya rock is an obsolete tool ......... until you don’t have a hammer!
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2nd June 2018, 05:00 PM #2
Near the end of Day1 and I’m learning all of these new capabilities...
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..... like sharpening WITHOUT red wine!
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Who would have believed it!
flettya rock is an obsolete tool ......... until you don’t have a hammer!
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3rd June 2018, 03:18 AM #3SENIOR MEMBER
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These courses are never offered in SA! Haha. It's an interesting method being taught for hoop setting. I was shown to remove the blade and just adjust/set the hoop on the handle separately from the chisel. Would you be able to ask Hiroshi-San who the blacksmith for these chisels is? Inoue Hamono imprints his own name on the chisels he sells but I don't think he's actually the blacksmith. A very nice guy, though!
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3rd June 2018, 11:56 AM #4
Morning tea, Day 2, I’ve been sent back to my bench to eat my banana.
My bevel sharpening.....
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.... is either good enough OR I’m on detention?a rock is an obsolete tool ......... until you don’t have a hammer!
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3rd June 2018, 09:02 PM #5
OK, end of Day2, the schedule says we should have fettled the chisel and sharpened the chisel, plane blade and chipbreaker by now ....... and most of us had. Both my chisel and plane blade comfortably sheared end grain.....
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...... and I guess that the chip breaker probably breaks chips but I didn’t get to test it
This is my first experience with blacksmithed, laminated blades. Whilst I understand the principle, I was surprised at;
- How much hammering could be required to ‘flatten’ the blade enough to sharpen it AND
- How well the blade blank responded to that hammering
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It’s been a strong learning experience, good fun and well worth the time and cost.
Next weekend is scheduled to be making the plane body .... but I might just get a jump start on that ?
It has been suggested that this should prompt another gtg at the shed....... but I doubt that 2 Japanese tools ...... oh, and the chopstick maker... could form the basis of a Japanese gtg?
flettya rock is an obsolete tool ......... until you don’t have a hammer!
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4th June 2018, 09:06 AM #6Those were the droids I was looking for.
https://autoblastgates.com.au
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4th June 2018, 07:44 PM #7
The course notes and a bit of sly measuring (possibly?) armed me with enough information to branch out ...... on my own!
I will still toe the line and create a plane body on the 3 days of next weekend but surely it will be better to have tried on my own first?
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After 3 hours I’d made a few mistakes ....... BUT, I was making shavings?a rock is an obsolete tool ......... until you don’t have a hammer!
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4th June 2018, 08:59 PM #8
Al, pics did not work.
I am in!Pat
Work is a necessary evil to be avoided. Mark Twain
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4th June 2018, 09:18 PM #9
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4th June 2018, 09:29 PM #10
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4th June 2018, 09:35 PM #11
The idea is germinating . . . Kanna making for novices . . .
Pat
Work is a necessary evil to be avoided. Mark Twain
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4th June 2018, 10:28 PM #12
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Thanks Matt but I probably need to replace the 2 1/2” nail to really justify “nice”?a rock is an obsolete tool ......... until you don’t have a hammer!
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4th June 2018, 11:18 PM #13
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11th June 2018, 08:15 PM #14
I don’t know how well “a bull in a China shop” would translate into Japanese but I think I heard it on Sunday morning? The 5 day ‘Japanese chisel and plane making course’ ended today but unfortunately I was on family duties and so did not attend today. Those who know me wouldn’t be surprised to hear that I rushed on ahead of the others ..... but paid for it!
Firstly however, the course was brilliant, the teacher, Hiroshi-san was VERY knowledgeable, VERY patient and VERY detailed in his teaching. If you hear of the course coming up again AND you have any interest in real hand tool work and culture, sign up, you won’t regret it!
Personally, I learned so much. I really didn’t know what sharp was until the Saturday afternoon of the first weekend. Yes, I had sharpened chisels so that they would cut across end grain but I now know that ‘truly sharp’ means SLICING through end grain AND leaving a polished surface!
My rushing ahead meant that I made more mistakes than would be expected but, by making these mistakes and correcting them, I learned so much more. I’ll detail my experience tomorrow ... after I finish this liqueur muscat by the outdoor fire?a rock is an obsolete tool ......... until you don’t have a hammer!
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11th June 2018, 08:32 PM #15
Is that a piece of WA She Oak (WASO) that you used for the plane?
What was it that made the chisel so much sharper? As I recall you normally finish sharpening on a 5k or 8k stone. What were they using in the workshop? It's an interesting topic, and one that Rob Streeper is deeply into - he reckons that over 5k is not long lasting enough for the effort of an extra stone. Was it sharpening with a guide or freehand?
I seriously doubt that it will take you until tomorrow to finish that!
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