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12th March 2009, 10:51 AM #1
AutoCad 2009 - Australian Beginners Template Measurement Basics/Standards?
Hi all,
Very cool to already have a forum for this question.
I've been drawing my woodworking plans by hand for years.
We're renovating the front 4 rooms of our home.
Two rooms have these huge MDF wardrobes
that I will be able to salvage huge pieces of MDF from.
I've mentally designed cubed storage I want to build with the MDF
and new wardrobes designs I want to give to a manufacturer to cut.
I'm playing with Autocad 2009 at the moment, hoping to learn the basics to see if I want to change professions, etc. (as if they'd have me)
Anyone in the drafting business know if there are Australian standards I can start from?
Perhaps a AutoCad 2009 Template?
Please tell me if everyone has their own standard.
i.e. Yes, It depends on the project/company etc.
Or please let me know that all CDC apps expect this or that format/standard.
Some of the immediate questions are:
Standard Units of measure - i.e. Metric or English
and corresponding decimal places
i.e. in mm where 1 meter would display 1000mm etc
Where each time I start a new drawing
- my standards would already be set.
I know that you can switch between pretty easily.
I just want to know if there is a standard.
Thanks and all the best,
Barry G. SumpterThanks,
Barry G. Sumpter
May Yesterdays Tears Quench the Thirst for Tomorrows Revenge
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12th March 2009, 12:36 PM #2
If the standard template you want isn't in the menu, you can create any number of custom ones. You can even have AutoCAD open with your desired template and every time you select a new document, it will open with any template of your choice too.
You can customise the settings in any number of ways to achieve what you're after. As you say, some companies, even within the same industry often have their own preferences. I deal mainly with Asia, the US and the UK and it can get quite complicated at times..
I know you believe you understand what you think I wrote, but I'm not sure you realize that what you just read is not what I meant.
Regards, Woodwould.
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12th March 2009, 02:29 PM #3
Thanks for that reply.
I'm relieved by an answer.
So I don't have to worry about that anymore.
i.e. different standard and requirements and complicated.
OK now I'm set.
And I can certinaly see where it gets complicated switching between countries and all. Jeez!
I'm also wondering if AutoCad 2009 can work with objects.
i.e. draft a house that all walls are double brick.
Where the walls object would have standard thicknesses available to choose from and types of brick and standard space between. etc.
And perhaps a windows object, different number of panes, single or double panes etc.
And doors etc.
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I have to say Sketchup looks pretty cool and its free!
But I doubt that it is an industry standard in any way.
But would be happy to be corrected.
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bazThanks,
Barry G. Sumpter
May Yesterdays Tears Quench the Thirst for Tomorrows Revenge
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12th March 2009, 02:37 PM #4
Missed the following thread in my research before posting this thread:
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f43/autocad-standards-cheat-sheet-44500Thanks,
Barry G. Sumpter
May Yesterdays Tears Quench the Thirst for Tomorrows Revenge
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12th March 2009, 02:46 PM #5
I'm not sure what you mean by 'objects', but I'm guessing their Objects - perhaps a native form of solids in another program?
AutoCAD does handle solids very well. You can create a Block or Region to the dimensions of your wall profile and then extrude it vertically (or horizontally) to the height/width of the desired wall. You can also create blocks for windows and anything else you care fore and embed data into the saved blocks. These can then be recalled from a folder or menue and inserted into any model you choose. It saves you having to perpetually draw the same item.
After a while you will probably have a massive amount of industry standard solid objects (there's that word again) saved in a virtual hardware store..
I know you believe you understand what you think I wrote, but I'm not sure you realize that what you just read is not what I meant.
Regards, Woodwould.
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12th March 2009, 02:57 PM #6
If you could just carry that thought forward.
Where after years and years of everyone making their own standard solid objects, a company comes out with a group of standard solid objects.
i.e. walls, windows, doors, and lets say fireplaces, shower etc.
That way we wouldn't have to build our own.
And we could load them or include them as you described.
So that let say when 3d rendering we know its a window so the window will be clear. And a door will have a knob and hinges and a shower will have the latest in water saving plumbing, etc.
I was hoping that as the standards change the company would update the objects, etc.
It's cool if they don't I just want to make sure I'm not missing something before I start.
Al the best,
bazThanks,
Barry G. Sumpter
May Yesterdays Tears Quench the Thirst for Tomorrows Revenge
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12th March 2009, 03:03 PM #7
Baz, there are miriads of industry components available as downloadable 3D solids from competing manufacturers all keen for you to incorporate their products in your designs. Well it's certainly the case in the engineering industry and I would imagine the world of architecture would be similar.
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I know you believe you understand what you think I wrote, but I'm not sure you realize that what you just read is not what I meant.
Regards, Woodwould.
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12th March 2009, 05:10 PM #8
Search for AutoCad blocks............there's thousands upon thousands out there.
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12th March 2009, 10:30 PM #9
Sometimes it's faster to make your own, than to browse all over creation to find one that's almost "perfect." I can draw a hex nut in profile faster than I can find one on my own chaotic hard drive.
For multiple copies of a block, AutoCAD's "Array" commands are superlative - available as rectangular and polar, with options in both.
Cheers,
JoeOf course truth is stranger than fiction.
Fiction has to make sense. - Mark Twain
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13th March 2009, 07:11 PM #10
If you are looking for architectural drawing, You will need to use something like autodesk revit, or architectural desktop as they have all what you are looking for. The other program that might help is Turbocad professional as it has an architectural module attached.
I am currently studying residential drafting and the program that is used by the company that I am working with is Autodesk Revit, a very capable program but you still have to assign a cover to the wall after is is finished. All the walls and fittings are blank until you assign them a texture.
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