Thread: Sketchup plans copyright

If that is the case that for me seems to go against the laws of copyright. Which once a person creates designs, drawings etc. they become automatic owners of that copyright.

Does the fine print say anything about the jurisdiction that it applies within?

FF when it was first released I noted on the forum this matter, not only that back then but in clicking yes/ok you gave cart-blanch to access your PC and files.

It has been a similar case that Microsoft has won numerous times as their own licences state similar.

It is the intellectual property they can not hold but how do you prove it I there fore refuse to use it.

Waldo: not necessarily the case. If you do something at work, your employer owns it. The fine print? Couldn't be pharqued reading it again. Like Wheelin, I won't go anywhere near it.

Wheelin: Given that I was about to use it for a commercially confidential project with international significance....I'm with you. They can stick it.

BTW, how do you prove it? How the hell do you know they've even taken it?

Regards, Brett

Brett point of a known case within employment "If your hired to or asked to design, produce, develop the project from scratch" It is yours not the companies ideas and you are the legal owner of it. It maybe their equipment used.

Such as I was hired to write brouchers because of the style I used.

Brett exactly or how do you know what else they have accessed on your machine.

Now go read Autocad's/Autodesk, Microsofts words of wonderment.

I think you'll find that statement 11.1 says that 3D content providers retain copyright and any other rights… but by uploading (to Google Earths library or that Sketchup 3D warehouse) you give Google a perpetual, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license. In other words, it remains yours until you place it on one of their distribution systems (the Sketchup 3D warehouse for example). The act of uploading it to there grants them licence to distribute it, even if you later change your mind and take it off the 3D warehouse.

Originally Posted by FenceFurniture

Waldo: not necessarily the case. If you do something at work, your employer owns it.

I was writing in the case of when I create something I own copyright, as I am the business owner, but yes you are right in the case of an employee, unless I create works for government, as I do, and then they automatically own copyright.

As Master Splinter correctly wrote, once anything is put up for public domain on a website, unless you own the registered trademark for it, you pretty much forfeit ownership of copyright.

Well, you retain the copyright, but you can't revoke Google's licence to distribute any items that you have purposely uploaded to their warehouse.

So if you do a hugely detailed, bolt by bolt Sketchup file of the Sydney Harbour Bridge and upload it to Google Earth, and you later discover that say, Hollywood is willing to pay good money for it, you can't force Google to say "Yeh, sure" when you ask them to remove the free one.

WOW, interesting topic...so Google owns all my plans....

Anyway, through SketchUp you can always claim a credit for your model and this will always be displayed when others download it from 3D WH

Luca

Maybe o Luca, but then you plans are free so I guess it makes no difference to you either way. Si? For a commercially sensitive project...NFW.
Brett

Yes, actually I'm not worried at all but this could be a great issue for those who make money with it.

Hi,
I went off Google when I got my Dell computer with a whole lot of Google googlies thrown in. I definitely did not want their skin on IE as I only wanted it to download Firefox and there was no way to say no thanks. In the end I clicked "I do not agree" on the agreement they kept ramming in front of me and you should have seen all the dire concequences I was going to suffer like removing all their soft ware etc,in the end only the bit I did not want disapeared and all their other stuff Dell had put on stayed, I think some more had to be down loaded for that program.
This maybe off topic but I just don,t like aggressive free programs, I am beginning to feel the same way every time some one tells me I can't survive if I am not on Face book.
Regards

Well said Mr Duke. Not so much "almost always" but far too often there's a catch when it's free. One notable exception is PDFCreator which is free, fabulous and no catch. They did want me to buy a slightly more capable version, and pestered me once a month with an email, but that's it.

Seems to me that Google are following the same path as Microsoft....we want your balls as well.

Gotta love people who complain that there are "catches" to the free software they use. There is a simple fix ... pay for the software.

Seriously there are not many people out there willing to spend hours and hours creating something, just to give it away (without any catches), and really, why should they. I would love a new timber TV cabinet ... I wonder if I can get a freeware one for nothing?

You're right Vernonv, and that's why I'll purchase some software for design. But sneaky Google bury all that in the Googledigook (which you can only view in a tiny window), and even when you do find it, it's written in such complex language that you just don't know what it actually means. It's a tried and trusted way of sucking people in. That's why there were so many cases won against the banks a while back. The customer has a broker sitting there explaining the contract "harmless, no problem, means this or that, don't worry about that", customer trusts broker, signs contract, gets stitched up, never hears from broker again. I know, I was a broker (without a needle and thread).

My point is: if it's free and there's a catch then it should be stated as clearly as the "FREE" is, not buried and difficult to decipher. How many people don't read the agreement before clicking "YES, I ACCEPT". 95%?

And hey, if PDFCreator want to put it out for nix, are you suggesting that I give them some money to keep my nose clean? Surely not. I make no complaint about the Freeware that I have (perhaps 3 or 4). There were no catches, that's why I got them.