Thread: Driving lights/roo blinders!!

G'Day John,

I'm out Westish SEQld and have;
2 X Hella RALLYE 1000s on the BM
2 X Hella Jumbo 220 on the Statey
1 x Spot and 1 X Spread 6" Night Vision on the Sons 82 Mazdarati 626

To much light will be a PAIN when going back to Low beam;
also
when there are a Lot of Road Signs

Down here

http://db.hella.com.au/cgi-bin/catal...tion=Auxiliary

I had a set of Cibie Turini's on my old Hilux 1 x cornering and 1 x pencil.

At the time the pencil had the longest beam available and the cornering was almost as wide as it was long. They weren't cheap, but they were good.

Just got a cheap set now, and may as well not have them.

Mate had a set that had hi and low beam, they also were expensive but very good. Don't know what brand they were though.

G'Day Geoff,

> Just got a cheap set now, and may as well not have them.
Quite agree
My daughter has SMALL Rectangular Hella 155
and they are a waste of time and Space. They'll be replaced and used as REVERSERS

> Mate had a set that had hi and low beam, they also were expensive but very good.
The High and Lows might have been Marchel.
Had one one my Honda CX500,
They were MAGIC

>Cibie Turini's
Lass @ work has these, NICE

I have a pair of 240mm "Light Force" spotties on the Navara. I prefer them because they are tough poly and have great light output,are not made of bendable dentable rustable steel and they are also "focusable" (is there such a word?) which means I have one focused for distance and the other for spread. They have had a few solid belts and they are as tough as old boots and last very well.

Since 1976 I have been running a pair of Cibie Oscars on and off different vehicles. The best part is that they have high and low beam! I ran them on various motorcycles for 25 years, now they are on a four wheel vehicle.

When running all lights and you switch back to just normal vehicle lights, the road goes very dark for about 5 seconds, when your eyes adjust to the dramatic drop of lighting, you will see again, not the greatest way to travel.

By having high and low beam in the driving lights you can switch to low beam, including the driving lights, then separately switch to just the vehicle lights if required.

The road doesn't suffer from blackout nearly as much, it is really easier on your eyes.

Mick.

Thanks for your responses,heard a lot of good things about "Lightforce" and may lean towards those but also like the cibie's.


Cheers John

Originally Posted by Optimark

By having high and low beam in the driving lights you can switch to low beam, including the driving lights, then separately switch to just the vehicle lights if required.



Mick.

Hi Mick

I have rallied for years and never heard of high/low on oscars. Do you know what bulb you are using?

cheers

Originally Posted by dazzler

Hi Mick

I have rallied for years and never heard of high/low on oscars. Do you know what bulb you are using?

cheers

Maybe Mick is referring to Cibie headlight inserts? I have used Cibie Super Oscars for many years, one spot and one driving with 125 watt globes, before that Hella 1357 (NLA). The Cibie advantage is they have no annoying dark spots, just even bright light. I believe Light Force use a unique globe and can be difficult to replace the globe and get the light performance right after that, but from all reports they give more light than the Super Oscars and in that case they are VERY bright. Also as Ivan has pointed out reflective signs are a pain with really bright lights.

Another vote for Lightforce.

I replaced my "value for money" Narva Ultima's with some Lightforce 170's recently...

...WOW!!

I can now light up a 2 lane highway 200-300mts in front of me.

lightforce gas discharge a mate has them they realy do turn night into day, they are bit pricey he tells me they cost a $1000, each!

Nobody's mentioned "Hella 4000" yet, I have had them on my Landcruiser ute for 7 years now, and they are still performing as good as new. I've had Cibie Oscars, and a variety of cheaper lights in the past, plenty of mates have gone with the Lightforce lights, but in quality, performance, and ruggedness, the 4000's win hands down.

If I had to buy another set of lights tomorrow I'd buy them again.

The Hella Predators/illuminators provide more light output but have a much bigger price.

Dazzler, I went and pulled one of the Oscars apart, the globe is a standard (as far as I know) P43T headlight globe, with 60/55W high/low beam. The globe has three T pieces at 120 degrees apart which slot into the reflector base. There is a flat piece on one side with a couple of pieces of metal which descend into the reflector bowl, these tabs align either side of another tab in the light globe assembly housing.

The glass has a reasonably close look to a standard headlight from Germany or France around that time, like the H4 Hella headlights. There is one big difference though, the glass is concave, not flat or concave. This concave bit, apparently helps if the focusing of the light.

Sorry about the delay in getting back to you, but I've been a bit crook of late and am just starting to feel human again.

These units were purchased by me from Ryans at the top end of Elizabeth street, think Ryco filters. At the time Ryans were one of the few places that imported and sold Cibie, Hella and Bosch aftermarket lighting systems for motor vehicles.

Mick.

Originally Posted by Optimark

Dazzler, I went and pulled one of the Oscars apart, the globe is a standard (as far as I know) P43T headlight globe, with 60/55W high/low beam.

Oscars as far as I know never had twin filament globes, no driving light does. I wonder if they have Renault 8/10 headlight inserts in them, stranger things have happened. The 8/10 series used a 5" or thereabouts headlight units, only the Gordinis had 7". The late Gordini 1255 had a 5'' driving light set into the front panel also. Cibie did a headlight which used two globes both single filaments, they were called Biodes but had a limited life as the dippable Halogen light was developed about that time. Just a bit of Cibie trivia.

Hi mate, my interest, other than wood working is 4wding and i actually run a 4wd website called the 4wd zone (www.the4wdzone.com) from what i have experienced i would agree with the comments on the lightforce lights, they seem well built, very reliable and have high performance. If you dont do alot of night driving and want something a little cheaper that will still perform the lightforce 170mm strikers are a good light, but the 240mm blitz lights are the bees knees, unless you start forking out big dollars for the HID light (and by big dollars i mean $950 each, yes each).

There is an online store as part of my website and you can purchase the lights online and i will have them delivered to your door. If you have any questions please feel free to email me [email protected]

Matt