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15th October 2011, 05:50 PM #1Skwair2rownd
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Looking for info on 2011 Kia Sportage R2.0 diesel
We have been thinking of purchasing a new vehicle. So far we've narrowed the field to The Kia and the Hyundai iX35, both diesel.
The reason for the diesel is the extra grunt for towing and the possible savings n running costs.
What I really want to know is: Does anyone out there hve some REAL Fuel consumption figures for both of these vehicles??
All the reviews I have read offer high praise for both cars but there seems to be some variance in the fuel consumption figures quoted by the companies and by the testers/reviewers.
Any input from anyone?
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15th October 2011, 11:43 PM #2
Hi artme
can't help with real world fuel consumption figures for the two vehicles you're looking at, but
when coming to a decision on what engine to with in my current car, it came down to the smaller engine might use about 1 litre less per 100kms. Over 20,000 kms, that's around 200 litres, or if fuel costs $1.50/l it's $300 -- to my mind the difference in fuel consumption wasn't enough to make a difference.
I've now had the car for 43,000 and know the biggest variable with fuel consumption is the driver. If I drive all the way from Sydney to the snow, there's enough fuel left in the tank to drive up and down the mountain for three or four days. If my wife drives about half the way, the remaining fuel is only enough for one or two days driving up and down the mountain. And with her driving it takes about 10 mins longer to get to Jindabyne.regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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16th October 2011, 01:16 AM #3SENIOR MEMBER
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I'm with Ian. It doesn't matter. Diesels are more expensive to service, so what you save in one hand...
You probably already know they are basically the same car, save for some spec differences. Buy the one you get the best deal on.Semtex fixes all
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16th October 2011, 03:07 AM #4Hammer Head
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17th October 2011, 10:23 AM #6Skwair2rownd
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Spoke to a cousin who rented a new iX35 2.4 petrol.
If his figures are correct then he was getting 7-8l/100kms. Bloody marvellous!!
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3rd November 2011, 09:59 AM #7Hewer of wood
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Yes.
Other variables include the speed you go (with the Forester there's a distinct consumption jump from 95 kph actual to 105 kph); whether you've got roof racks on and if they're loaded (= drag); towing, obviously; dirt vs bitumen; fuel type (E10 is cheaper to buy but gets sucked up faster); etc.
Unloaded on the highway the Foz can return 9l per 100 km; towing on the Oodnadatta track with lots of washouts it can rise to 50% more than that. You get to Marree and pay two bucks a litre to fill up; ouch.Cheers, Ern
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3rd November 2011, 09:23 PM #8
Purchased anh IX35 Highlander diesel 31st June this year. I love it, fuel economy 7L/100 and I don't drive it nicely. Has all the power you need, drove a V6 something in the US last year and I reckon the IX35 would blow it away and with a much better fuel economy.
I got rid of a BMW 528I to move up to the IX35 much prefer the Hyundai and I really liked the BMW.
I chose the Highlander because it had his and hers air conditioning and a good number of other nice little extras. Pauline loves the heated seats. My accountant loves the savings on fuel costs. I love the whole package, including the tons of legroom. Only problem we could find is the headrests are very far forward. OK for me but no good for the boss as it pushes her head forward. Turned her headrest around and all is good. Wouldn't let that put you off buying one.
I drove a Kia Sportage for a week in LA last year and it was a very nice vehicle but the Hyundai is better in my opinion. Sportage was petrol not diesel, only had about 1,800 mile on the clock and as I said was a very nice vehicle to drive, but I still prefer the Hyundai.
I can't recommend the IX35 highly enough. I've owned a lot of vehicles over the years from V8 muscle cars to sports cars, prestige cars and a whole lot of others from vintage to bombs in between, to date this is the best yet and by a fair bit.
Not that it has anything to do with this but I also have a Renault Master high roof, mid wheelbase van which averages 7.5L/100 Melb to Sydney fully loaded on 2 tanks of diesel. Both will cruise all day on 100kph, up hill and down dale without an appreciable drop in speed.
Hope this is of some help.
Cheers - Neil
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3rd November 2011, 10:13 PM #9
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4th November 2011, 07:49 AM #10
It is right alright. About the only thing that the reviewers complained about also. Doesn't effect everyone. It isn't a problem for me and most others who have been in the vehicle but for someone in the lower end of the 5ft range it seems to be a bit of a problem. As I said it's easily fixed and the headrest does it's job fine if reversed.
Not only is the headrest in a strange forward position for some but it is also adjustable further forward by means of a ratchet setting. which would put my wifes head almost on her chest when she is in the passenger seat.
Most people probably won't even notice it or be affected by it. We certainly didn't when we took one for a test drive. But believe me for some it will be a problem. Still wouldn't let it put me off buying that vehicle though.
artme For fuel economy have a look at this [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay06XZO_TrI"]Hyundai ix35 Compact SUV: Eco Run - YouTube[/ame]
and these:
Hyundai ix35 EcoDrive – Melb-Adel-Melb – Day 1 | Car Advice | Reviews
Hyundai ix35 EcoDrive Day 2
Review from Car Advice 2011 Hyundai ix35 Review | Car Advice | Reviews the one pictured in the review is the same colour as mine.
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16th November 2011, 06:55 AM #11Skwair2rownd
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Thanks for all that info ubeaut!
Certaily looks as if almost unbelievable economy can be obtained with sensible driving!
Be intersting to know what speeds Hans was doing.
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16th November 2011, 08:42 AM #12
That is incredibly good fuel economy!
Just as an aside, I drove from Adelaide to Bendigo yesterday in a 3.6L V6 Commodore with direct injection LPG (factory). I drove my normal speed (100 km/h on the cruise control, speed verified by my GPS) and got 10.2L per 100km. At the price of LPG (55.5 c/L less 8c fuel docket) that worked out at 4.75c/km. The iX35 at 4.85L per 100km and diesel at (guess) $1.48/L (less 8c fuel docket) works out at 6.79c/km.
Over the 3.5 years the we have owned the LPG (dual fuel) Commodore we have averaged 8.04 km/l at an average LPG price of $0.551/L, giving 6.86c/km. Not bad for a big and ropmy V6 sedan. This includes city driving, highway driving and quite a bit of camper trailer towing (Jayco Penguin).
I keep a record of fuel consumption as compared to petrol and we have saved $7222 over that time, which is almost half what we paid for the vehicle 3.5 years ago!
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16th November 2011, 07:49 PM #13Skwair2rownd
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They are interesting and great figures Fred!!
One wonders what the per km cost of the new gas system from Ford will work out to be.
We often lose sight of the different methods for defining economy. The cost per kilometre is , to me, the most salient measurement.
We have been putting 95 octane or 98 octane petrol in the CRV over the last few weeks. I need to work out the cost per kilometre but in raw terms we are getting an extra 60-70kms per tank compared to E10. Another factor here is the general behaviour of the car. It runs more smoothly and seem sto have that extra zip for over taking and so on.
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16th November 2011, 08:22 PM #14Hewer of wood
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There's no point in sucking premium if the engine isn't designed to use it, except for the occasional tank to clean the works. You're paying a premium you don't need to.
RON 91 is recommended for the CRV.
E10 is cheapest per l. but acc to RACV tests it gets sucked up quicker.
Do the numbers; remember the placebo effect.Cheers, Ern
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16th November 2011, 10:24 PM #15
at one stage Hans says "I've been in this car for 22 hours over two days" in the background is building embossed "Beaufort Motors" so I would assume the intention is to imply he was halfway between Arrarat and Ballarat -- 250km from Melbourne?
even if the 22 hours refers to nearly all the elasped time Melbourne -- Adelaide -- Melbourne, Hans's avearge speed is less than 65km/h
The few shots of the car and other vehicles suggests to me that Hans was travelling well below the speed limit, possibly at less than 75km/h -- he was overtaken by a B-Double at one stageregards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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