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    Default Replacing Welsh plugs on truck

    My poor old truck sprung a leak the other day and on further investigation, I discovered that one of my welsh plugs had rust through .

    Normally a simple job to replace but this one is behind the injector pump , so I have to pull it out just to get to the plug. While it is out I will replace the other ones too, don't want to have the other ones spring a leak further down the track say like next week or the month after .
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    While you are at it, look for one in the end of the head. Usually the end you can not get at..........
    Put some antifreeze, antirust in it.

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    Unhappy Leaking water!

    Dj, just to make it interesting check a service manual and see if there is a welsh plug in the rear of the block in between the block and where the bellhousing bolts on, quite a mission to replace if it has one there. Anti freeze / coolant usually takes care of the corrosion problem which you have failed to maintain.

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    I've cut a hole in the firewall to get at the one in back of the head then just covered the hole with a plate
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    Have bought anti freeze/coolant to put in, I have only had this truck a short time and that was how it came. Will be getting a good going over soon and all the little bits and pieces sorted out
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    Interesting to note, these plugs are also called Welch plugs and freeze plugs. and back in the old country some people called them pennies. Apparently a penny was the right size for some of the holes and they were used to replace the old ones.
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    "Freeze plugs" is a popular misnomer. Frozen coolant will crack the block, not push out the plug. They're actually used to plug the holes left by the lumps of sand holding the sand core in place while casting the engine parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe greiner View Post
    "Freeze plugs" is a popular misnomer. Frozen coolant will crack the block, not push out the plug. They're actually used to plug the holes left by the lumps of sand holding the sand core in place while casting the engine parts.

    Joe
    I actually had a Bedford truck in England and didn't have anti freeze in it, just water and a hard frost did exactly that, the plugs pushed out of the block and the block itself was intact, only had to install new plugs. I know this isn't their primary function but have seen this happen on numerous occasions in the uk
    Reality is no background music.
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    Quote Originally Posted by munruben View Post
    I actually had a Bedford truck in England and didn't have anti freeze in it, just water and a hard frost did exactly that, the plugs pushed out of the block and the block itself was intact, only had to install new plugs. I know this isn't their primary function but have seen this happen on numerous occasions in the uk
    Happens often enough to justify the terminology, I guess. Probably a threshhold where the remaining frozen coolant would still crack the block; maybe in the far north, such as Scandinavia, Alaska and such. Nice to know they sometimes work that way, though. Thanks, John.

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    A motor mechanic friend of mine gave this tip on installing welsh plugs. Use a socket that fits tight in the plug [ I had to grind a socket to fit my plugs tight] and you can control the angle of entry easily. You can add an extension piece to the socket if it is hard to hit.
    les

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    Quote Originally Posted by echnidna View Post
    I've cut a hole in the firewall to get at the one in back of the head then just covered the hole with a plate

    You too huh?

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    No flies on us Mick
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    Quote Originally Posted by echnidna View Post
    No flies on us Mick
    No, but you can see where they have been.
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    Cheers John

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    don't forget the "stag".

    krikey that stuff has been arround a long time & is still remarkable stuff.

    its food safe too.

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    Abrasives can be just as dangerous as a blade.....and 10 times more painfull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe greiner View Post
    "Freeze plugs" is a popular misnomer. Frozen coolant will crack the block, not push out the plug. They're actually used to plug the holes left by the lumps of sand holding the sand core in place while casting the engine parts.

    Joe

    Hence the Australian common name "Core Plug"

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