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    Quote Originally Posted by FenceFurniture View Post
    Just looking at that capture again. In the top (older) workbook, you can see Sheet 24 (MUSIC), and that is the last sheet created. However, in the book below (the problem book) there is Sheet 25 (WORK SHEET) which is a recent addition, and not related to this problem, but then there is Sheet26 (MUSIC) which is obviously the one I can see in Excel.
    Hi Brett,

    That looks like the new XLXM is corrupt. It is showing two DOCUMENTS (i.e. workbooks "Sheet24" and "ThisWorkbook") in the same project. That should not happen (or if it can I am not aware of it - but I'm no VBA expert)

    I would do this:


    1. Open a new Excel workbook
    2. Go to Developer tab > Macro security > Disable all macros without notification
    3. Close Excel
    4. Double-click corrupted file, for example, Tool Control.xlsm
    5. File > Save as... > Tool Control.xlsb (not .xlsm), choosing the .xlsb format is what does the trick
    6. Go to Developer tab > Macro security > Enable all macros (or whatever level of security you normally use)
    7. Quit Excel
    8. Double-click Tool Control.xlsb
    9. Save Tool Control.xlsb file as .xlsm


    Basically this saves the file as as a binary (as opposed to the open XML format) and can force Excel to clean up certain things. It sometimes works to save what seems a corrupted file.

    If that does not get rid of the errant workbook, the longer method is:


    1. create a new workbook.
    2. copy all the data from all the legitimate sheets in original into identically named sheets in new workbook.
    3. copy all the code from the original to the new workbook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derekcohen View Post
    Brett, it is not just Windows where Excel struggles, but on my MacBook Pro (2019) as well. It cannot be a lack of RAM as I have 16Gb, and I certainly do not have a slow processor or SSD (top of the range on both accounts).

    I was using Office 2011 until two years ago, when it no longer ran under the (then) latest OS (Mojave). I upgraded to Office 2016. No problems with Word or PowerPoint, but Excel would hang after two days (refused to save or close a file quickly ... the wheel would turn and turn for about 30 seconds). Only a complete reboot would get it running. (I use Excel for patient account records, invoices, receipts, and appointment notes, so re-booting loses time).

    I now have Office 2019, and it is better behaved ... except Excel still hangs, but at least it will re-run after closing and re-opening Excel (rather than the computer). Word now no longer opens to a "full" screen (that is, up against the title bar, which I do not want to omit).

    I would go to something else, like OpenOffice, if it had the ability to add Notes in the Excel-like substitute (this is where I write notes about the appointments).

    Anyone help with opening Word (other than widening the screen and saving files individually)? Or curing Excel's habit of hanging after 2 days?

    Regards from Perth

    Derek
    Hi Derek,

    It can be RAM - just because your machine has plenty does not mean specific apps can use it all. If the app is 32bit it won't be able to use more than 4Gb

    However I think I read that Apple have dropped formal 32bit support from Mohave, and that MIGHT be your problem.

    Did Office give you the option of installing 32bit vs 64bit? (Sorry, I have not used Mac for a long time so have not seen a recent MS installation on Mac) If so, you should ensure you are using the 64bit version. (You can open the media that the install files are on & check the top levels of folders - you may see a file called Setup32 and another called Setup64 - if so run teh Setup64 or equivalent)

    When I last used a Mac, I wrote a little AppleScript that opened certain programs in full screen by default - that might be an option.

    Also had a quick squiz on Google & this might work for you
    How to Make Apps Open in Full Screen Mode on Mac Automatically

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    Hi Ross

    I am still running Mojave, second latest OS, which is 64 bit but supports 32 bit. The latest OS, Catalina, will only support 64 bit, which is why I (and many others) have yet to upgrade as some of the apps we need will not run under it. Office is 64 bit and I very much doubt that there is an issue here.

    RAM seems to me to be the offending area, with Excel looking like it gets hungrier and hungrier the longer it is open, even if the files open are not demanding of much. I would say that there is an incompatibility between Excel and Mojave. This did not happen with High Sierra, which can before.

    With 2016, Excel would spin its wheel, which indicated that it had ran out of ram. A complete re-boot is needed. With 2019, it send out a message saying that the file is corrupt and cannot be opened. After closing and re-opening Excel, all works fine.

    Regards from Perth

    Derek
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