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    When online banking went to multiple digit unmemorable customer numbers for logins, added to my long list of forum etc passwords, I found I had to start writing down login details. Used a p/w protected Word file.

    Since have swapped to using a p/w manager, Roboform. Works a treat. You have one master p/w which allows website logins automatically: opens the browser of choice, enters the details and you're in. Will also auto fill forms.

    Works with IE and Firefox, and at a basic level with Chrome.

    You get 10 logins free.

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    Cheers, Ern

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    Yep.

    My son does IT support in a group of schools. The number of teachers who enter as their password 'password' is mind-boggling.
    Cheers, Ern

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    That looks interesting Ern, like you I went the password protected Word file way.

    What happens when Roboform has a hissy fit and how secure is the data in there in the first place?

    Can it only be used on one computer? I have a desktop and a notebook, can it be used on both?

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    Fred, can't say about hissy fits; never done it on my machine.

    The program is local in std format so the encrypted master password is as secure as a hacker's skills, like everything else.

    Yes, I use it on my laptop and the desktop. 10 free logins on both.

    There's a version with all the data online so you can use it from public access machines. I've not tried this and can't comment on how secure it is.
    Cheers, Ern

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    Thanks Ern, when I talk about a "hissy fit", I mean what happens when the program crashes, how do you then access your passwords? If you would still have to have a backup record elsewhere it sort of limits the usefulness, wouldn't it?

    I assume you haven't paid for it yet when you are still talking about 10 logins on each of your 2 machines?

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    Fred, as I said, it's not crashed on my machine. But all it does is store your logins under a master login, so if the program carks it you will still be able to login to any site with your local user ID and p/w.

    And no, that's right, I've limited my logins to 10 on each machine to keep it free.
    Cheers, Ern

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    I use a similar program called PasswordSafe. (or another one called MyPasswordSafe)
    It's a freebie and runs on most operating systems (I don't run Windows OS except on rare occassions).
    PasswordSafe doesn't call any programs for you but when you click on an entry, it copies the password to the clipboard for 15 seconds and then clears the clipboard.
    There's a master pass phrase that gives you access to the data file - which is stored encrypted.
    It's a good option for me as I can have the Windows, OS/X and Linux versions of the program along with the data file stored on a USB key. For Windows it will run from the USB key i.e. doesn't need to be installed on the Windows system.

    It came in handy recently when I built a new system. After being off the air for a day, you have to log back in and as I normally stay logged in 24/7, I can never remember my passwords.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsser View Post
    Fred, as I said, it's not crashed on my machine. But all it does is store your logins under a master login, so if the program carks it you will still be able to login to any site with your local user ID and p/w.

    And no, that's right, I've limited my logins to 10 on each machine to keep it free.
    I think perhaps we are at cross purposes here Ern, what I was getting at (not very clearly, obviously) is whether you would still have to store all your passwords somewhere so that you can see them when you computer(s) goes down.

    I took the 10 logins to mean that you can use it 10 times, then you have to buy it, but perhaps it means you can be logged in to a max of 10 sites simultaneously?


    Quote Originally Posted by snowyskiesau View Post
    I use a similar program called PasswordSafe. (or another one called MyPasswordSafe)
    It's a freebie and runs on most operating systems (I don't run Windows OS except on rare occassions).
    PasswordSafe doesn't call any programs for you but when you click on an entry, it copies the password to the clipboard for 15 seconds and then clears the clipboard.
    There's a master pass phrase that gives you access to the data file - which is stored encrypted.
    It's a good option for me as I can have the Windows, OS/X and Linux versions of the program along with the data file stored on a USB key. For Windows it will run from the USB key i.e. doesn't need to be installed on the Windows system.

    It came in handy recently when I built a new system. After being off the air for a day, you have to log back in and as I normally stay logged in 24/7, I can never remember my passwords.
    That sounds like a good option Geoff, like the idea of the passwords on the USB key and being able to run the program from there as well. Means one can go to another computer with the USB key and still use the passwords/program.

    Must investigate.

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    Fred, I run the version which is installed on the machine. 10 logins free. 2 machines, 10 on each, free. Expect the version that runs on an internet server for machine independent use would give you 10 free too but I haven't used that version.

    Hope this is clear?
    Cheers, Ern

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    What's wrong with the password manager integrated into Firefox??

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    I know it may not be a smart idea but I use the same password for everything then I don't forget it. That way I don't have to store any passwords on my computer. Just in my head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Splinter View Post
    What's wrong with the password manager integrated into Firefox??
    It's fine as long as no one else has access to your computer. It allows anyone to log on to a site without having to know your login/password. I prefer that I'm the only one who knows this info

    Having said that, I do have Firefox remember a login to my ISP so that I can use the Firefox Net Usage addon to show my download quota.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsser View Post
    Fred, I run the version which is installed on the machine. 10 logins free. 2 machines, 10 on each, free. Expect the version that runs on an internet server for machine independent use would give you 10 free too but I haven't used that version.

    Hope this is clear?
    I'm still not clear on this, when you say 10 logins, that implies that I can use the program to log on to a site 10 times then on the 11 login I need to pay for the pro version?

    Or are you saying that I can store passwords for 10 sites but once I need to store one for the 11th site I need to buy the pro version?
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    Yeah, the latter DJ.
    Cheers, Ern

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