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    Hi Everyone

    I have just spent a lot of time enjoying music videos on You Tube and was wondering is it possible to record just the audio, to enable me to create CDs of some of this music.

    Most of it is fairly old stuff, and often not available on CD, and I don't think copyright should be a problem. In fact, some of it is from 1950s & 60s television shows, and from live concerts, so it's generally not available to buy.

    Can anyone help me to understand what the process is, if it is possible to do what I would like to.

    I have a fairly new computer, and have Nero 7, but no program to record. Before my computer crashed last, I had what could be described as a 'virtual recorder' but that appears to not have been loaded again, and because it came as a package with my old computer, I ditched the old discs associated with my previous system.

    So, from scratch, what do I do?

    Cheers
    LiliB

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    Maybe you could download the video and cut the music out in some software.
    Regards Ben

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    "Most of it is fairly old stuff, and often not available on CD, and I don't think copyright should be a problem. In fact, some of it is from 1950s & 60s television shows, and from live concerts, so it's generally not available to buy." Availability doesn't matter. If the owner of the copyright doesn't want to make it available, that's just tough on anyone who wants a copy.

    The copyright term in Australia is 70 years from death of the author (or production, in the case of TV shows), so all that stuff will still be copyright. (not to mention that there can be multiple holders of copyrights when it comes to things like music - there's the copyright on the actual recording/broadcast of the performance, a copyright on the music and a copyright on the lyrics. You have to get all three rights holders to agree to release it...)

    Now that I've pointed out daft the idea of copyright is in a post-scarcity environment, here's what you can do....

    Download a bittorrent client, then search a torrent aggregator for what you are looking for...see here for a guide: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SGwm_PXTZo]YouTube - How to use utorrent and isohunt[/ame]

    If you can download what you are after (ie as an mp3 file) in a torrent, then it's job done!

    If not, just add DownloadHelper to Firefox, download the video from YouTube and convert the flv from Youtube to an mp3 with something like this: FLV to MP3 Converter | Ripzor.com



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    Go to the video you want

    say...............[url = http : // www . youtube . com / watch?v=_ZSbC09qgLI]YouTube - i are cute kitten[/url]

    Then insert the work kick...........http://www.kickyoutube.com/watch?v=_ZSbC09qgLI

    This then takes you off to the new site and just follow the prompts!

    (I just picked that vid as an example, didn't realise the owner was going to torment the thing by putting it into all of those situations!)
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    Hi everyone
    Thanks to those who answered my query.

    I have spent the bulk of today fiddling with files to try to get the whole process right. I downloaded Download helper and FLV to MP3 converter, which works a treat.

    I had more trouble with the burning side of it. I only had a single CD-RW disc and Nero kept demanding an empty disc for each burning experiment, which frustrated me no end.

    Is this need for an empty CD just because it was RW, or does this mean that I can only burn a CD in one session, and therefore have to be more organised than having just one or two tracks that I want to add to a compilation?

    I found out that both cars will play my CD, however, sadly my trusty NAD CD player won't handle it. That's an annoyance because it has lovely speakers connected, much better of course than what I have on the computer system. Anyhow, I guess time marches on, and we have to learn to march with it.

    Master Splinter

    Thank you. You have made me very happy. I appreciate your help once again.

    I take your comments on the copyright situation on board, and agree, that the terms are ludicrous. I wonder how the whole copyright situation applies to what is available to view on big sites like You Tube?

    Just one more question to the informed and wise -

    How can I get rid of my browsing history from my machine. It drives me crazy because you can't seem to get rid of it on your browsers these days. I like things good and tidy, and don't really need to refer to what I looked at two years ago!!! Nor do I want friends and family sticky beaking into what I access.

    Cheers
    LiliB

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    I think the best software I have come across that does exactly as I think you described you wanted is Any Video Converter free edition
    Google "AVC free" and it should float to the top
    It converts video from most formats and is very good at downloading youtube videos for use on MP3/MP4 players. You can even download the video to watch later without using your precious download limits and do the conversion to MP3 later for your MP3 player, or burning to CD for your car etc.

    If what you wanted was not what you described you wanted or I have misunderstood what you wanted as what I thought was really cool when I found it then you have to look for somethign else, unless it is that this software actually does what it was you actually wanted and not what I thought you wanted then I have picked the right software for the wrong reason or you have to look for a different bit of software.

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    If you are burning a CD to use on stand-alone, old fashioned CD players (such as your NAD) you need to have all your tracks ready to go, and burn the CD in one hit.

    This is because old fashioned (Red Book specification) CDs don't contain discrete data like a computer file (song one, song two, song three etc), but one continuous piece of music with the odd few seconds of total silence here and there, and individual 'songs' are created by the index that shows the CD player where to seek to in that one long piece of music!

    Older players can also have trouble with CD-RW format (it doesn't quite have the same reflectivity as the CD-R media, in the same way that really, really old CD-drives may not be able to read burned media at all).

    Also be aware that there are two options when you are doing a burn - generally something like:
    Leave disc open (add more data later), and
    Finalise disc (maximum compatibility with other systems).

    Basically, if you leave the disc open, the software does not create a master index for it, in effect expecting the device to seek the entire disc and build its own song index. Older CD players don't have the ability to do this, so they can't read the media. When you finalise the disc, you create this master index and you loose the ability to add extra tracks.

    And as for this:
    "I wonder how the whole copyright situation applies to what is available to view on big sites like You Tube?"
    The answer is takedown notices - just yesterday, I noticed that the most popular instance of the 'Manah manah' song by the Muppets has had its audio removed after a request by WMG. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNbFYSXON6Q"]YouTube- The Shadow Priest[/ame]

    There have also been takedown notices on videos which feature someone's toddler being all cute and dancing to music on the TV/radio/stereo, and I can remember one documentary which had to be re-edited as there was ten or so seconds of 'The Simpsons' playing on a TV in the background of one shot; the cost of licensing those ten seconds was more than the entire budget of the doco.

    Oh - and in Firefox, history retention can be specified in Tools - Options - Privacy, and the occasional annoying domain name that keeps appearing in the dropdown of the URL bar can be cleared by doing shift-delete on it, so you can finally get rid of that embarrassing XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX entry!!
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    Thanks again, Master Splinter

    As usual, you are a mine of information for the uninitiated. I think that's another beer I owe you!!!

    I feel a little more comfortable about what I shall be doing in terms of CD burning.

    Cheers
    Lili

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    I use a free audio extractor program to do this task and it does it easily with no fuss or bother. I am not sure of the name of it right now cos I have it installed on my other OS on this computer so can't access it at the moment. but if you google for a free audio extractor, you should get plenty of results. some of them are not free so make sure you get a free one. Try something like this one here
    Reality is no background music.
    Cheers John

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    The name of the program I use is AoA Audio extractor. I finally remembered to check it out. Very simple to use and free.
    Reality is no background music.
    Cheers John

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