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    Wow, you are a mind reader now. Do you have a persecution complex?
    Don't have to be a mind reader to make an observation. I'm out there witnessing it and talking to people, not sitting behind a computer. You don't have to go any further than threads like this to pick up on it though. Most people let it slip without realising it. It's blatantly obvious to anyone with an ounce of perception. Most people I have interacted with on this issue believe that cyclists should not be riding on the road and/or should move out of the way if a car comes along. Many people even believe that the law requires you to do so.

    To be honest, considering the number of cyclists I encounter, compared to the number of non-cyclists, I would have to say that per capita they (cyclists) would be slightly over-represented (only slightly).
    I think I will move to Armidale. My office looks out onto my street, which is 50kph and a dead end. Just about every car speeds along it. But that's OK because they are busy important people who have to be somewhere. I would say that just about every one of my neighbours breaks the law there on a daily basis. They roll through the stop sign too. And I have seen them stop in no stopping zones to drop their kids off.

    OK basically you don't have any real issue with most cyclists. So what problems do you believe registration/insurance will fix? Are you aware of a situation where a cyclist has caused injury or death to another road user and gotten away with it?

    Because usually the registration thing is trotted out by people who are running out of arguments for why cyclists shouldn't be allowed on the road. They try to legitimise their belief by saying things like "they don't even pay registration" in the misguided belief that rego fees pay for the roads. Of course then that leads to arguments about why registration is a waste of time and money and so on. They are then trapped and have to try and establish legitimate reasons for wanting it. So is Armidale rife with cyclists causing collisions and doing a runner?
    "I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentC View Post
    Don't have to be a mind reader to make an observation.
    So how exactly do you "observe" a "mindset" of some guy is a passing car? I can't believe you are seriously pursuing this line.


    Quote Originally Posted by silentC View Post
    So what problems do you believe registration/insurance will fix?
    I'm not rehashing it all again ... you are welcome to go back and read it for yourself if you wish.
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    So how exactly do you "observe" a "mindset" of some guy is a passing car?
    Like I said, if you were a cyclist it would be obvious to you and we wouldn't even be having this argument. But I'll give you some pointers - if they are shaking their head at you, or blowing their horn, or giving you the finger that means they think you shouldn't be there. If they pull out in front of you or overtake and left hook, they think you shouldn't be there. There are various ways a person who puts themselves out there can pick up on the 'vibe'. Behaviour is a good indicator of attitude. I can't believe you deny the attitude exists.

    I'm not rehashing it all again ...
    I did you the courtesy of reading back over your posts. Nowhere do you say what problem you feel it will solve. Just that it's "high time". It's fairly typical of proponents of that line of argument. There is nothing to back it up. It's straight from the Daily Telegraph letters page. As soon as logic comes into it, the vanishing smiley comes out.
    "I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."

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    Crikey You guys are paranoid. I said "keep out of the way of motor vehicles" not keep out of my way, or as you seem to think "Get out of the f**king way". I was thinking of the cyclist's own self preservation and think it is good advice, but then I made no allowances for biased mind readers.
    My biggest gripe with cyclists are the ones who do not warn of their approach and nearly wipe me and/or my Jack Russels out on the sheared Recreation Trails and not when I am gunning along in my 1 tone Ute, although I have had to dodge a few who have been trying to commit suicide by motor vehicle.
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    Just because I'm paranoid, it doesn't mean everyone is not out to kill me
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentC View Post
    Just because I'm paranoid, it doesn't mean everyone is not out to kill me
    Too right but I am not, so you can amend that to 'everyone minus one'.
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