Thread: Campervan do out

Chipboard. Same result if used near water. Cut a bit off and put it in a bucket of water. You will see what I mean.

Originally Posted by

Chipboard. Same result if used near water. Cut a bit off and put it in a bucket of water. You will see what I mean.

I understand what you are saying. I intend to silicon seal at the edges for under the sink in the water storage area...Do you think that will work? , or is there any suggestions on how I could seal the edge of the material, maybe using water proof PVA. from Carbatech.

The reason I am being persistent is that it is reasonably light and it is cheap.

BB

The reason I am being persistent is that it is reasonably light and it is cheap.

So is ply of that size and stronger.

Originally Posted by

So is ply of that size and stronger.

Unless one buys marine ply, ordinary ply will swell if it gets wet.

The stuff I have has a laminate on both sides, the only place where the particle board can be seen is at the edges. The laminate is as strong as normal bench top laminate.

It couldn't be cheaper than free, hey?

Cheap 4mm marine ply 1200 x 2400 $78.00 plus delivery costs.

Sounds like I am being argumentative now. Sorry.

BB

Originally Posted by Black Bear

Unless one buys marine ply, ordinary ply will swell if it gets wet.

The stuff I have has a laminate on both sides, the only place where the particle board can be seen is at the edges. The laminate is as strong as normal bench top laminate.

It couldn't be cheaper than free, hey?

Cheap 4mm marine ply 1200 x 2400 $78.00 plus delivery costs.

Sounds like I am being argumentative now. Sorry.

BB

You don't need marine ply. Ordinary CD exterior uses the same glue.

Hi Bear,

What are you using (or intend to use) as lining in the bus i.e. where there is no furniture?

As I mentioned in a previous post, I have a sprinter that I want to line (maybe camper conversion one day). There are lots of threads in the sprinter forum I posted but they seem to use materials that are hard to get here.
I'd been looking at something like 4 mm ply installed with rivnuts.

Originally Posted by

You don't need marine ply. Ordinary CD exterior uses the same glue.

CD or even construction (bracing ply) comes in 12 mm.

We get it in 3mm here. Look for A-bond, that is waterproof glue.

Originally Posted by snowyskiesau

Hi Bear,

What are you using (or intend to use) as lining in the bus i.e. where there is no furniture?

As I mentioned in a previous post, I have a sprinter that I want to line (maybe camper conversion one day). There are lots of threads in the sprinter forum I posted but they seem to use materials that are hard to get here.
I'd been looking at something like 4 mm ply installed with rivnuts.

Have a look at lamipanel. Laminex (Melbourne,VIC)

Here BB. Have a look at this site. Brace Ply F22 - Australian Wood Panels - Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide

One last question folks: One mention of 160 hours for a fit out caught my attention.

Taking the photo I put in of the van in an un-refurbished condition to a complete fit out, considering that the owner wants it to be a bit of a show piece, would anyone care to give a ball-park figure of time and cost, taking into account that much of the material will be supplied by the builder.

I can understand the owners concern at the cost that is being incurred, however I did tell him that the work is very detail involved. laborious and needing lots of fine finishing.

He came with the bus with stuff that had to be removed, no plans, no concept on layout nor material needed to do the work and left the lot to me. He agreed to an hourly wage figure, and in all honesty I have not charged him the full amount of time expended.

At those that have taken on a project such as this, you will appreciate the work required. The owner has now had second thoughts and is withholding payments for material supplied and work done.

Any comments from you guys will be not be considered as legal advice, simply advice from those that have carried out the same work in different situations.

There is no fool like an old fool that tries to help.

BB

As I said previously 160 Hours min if everything goes right and it is simple fitout with the basics.

Start adding Cd players and other whizzbang things and it changes.

Our labour rate is $80.00/hr but on these jobs we charge $60.00/hr because they are long term projects, however if we were doing it the way you are (a bit at a time and he takes it away) the price starts sliding back up towards the $80.00 mark because you have to start all over again with tools etc.

So 160 hours by $60.00/hr = $9600.00 plus material plus fittings.

All up it would be about $11000-$15000 depending on appliances.

Originally Posted by

As I said previously 160 Hours min if everything goes right and it is simple fitout with the basics.

Start adding Cd players and other whizzbang things and it changes.

Our labour rate is $80.00/hr but on these jobs we charge $60.00/hr because they are long term projects, however if we were doing it the way you are (a bit at a time and he takes it away) the price starts sliding back up towards the $80.00 mark because you have to start all over again with tools etc.

So 160 hours by $60.00/hr = $9600.00 plus material plus fittings.

All up it would be about $11000-$15000 depending on appliances.

PHEW! and he is complaining at $12.00per hour....which I was happy with if he had been Fair Dinkum.

Thank you , I am most obliged.

BB

I should have seen it coming!!!! After I had almost completed all the preliminary work, had his air re-circulatory system removed at a very good price ($50.) Supplied my Silky Oak, this chappie said one evening that her wanted to take the unit to the weigh bridge, and that I should take all my tools out of the bus.

In the wee small hours of the next morning he rolled the bus out of the driveway, not in reverse as he has a hooter on his reverse hear, and off into the gathering dawn.

Even then I was not too worried....Until 6,00pm that evening when I received a phone call from said bloke "I ain't paying you any money"....Ha Ha! Sed I, "You are full of jokes but that is not one of them"..."No Joke, you are too expensive for what I want".

So, off to the small claims tribunal, I guess.

I had cut my costs and wages to the bone as it was "To be a long term project", now I will be asking for an increased amount in wages.

No contact, just word of mouth agreements. And as they say a verbal agreement is not worth the paper it is written on.

BB