24th April 2019, 06:32 PM #1
25th April- ANZAC DAY “We will remember them”
In most ceremonies of remembrance there is a reading of an appropriate poem. One traditional recitation on Anzac Day is the Ode.
The Ode comes from For the Fallen, a poem by the English poet and writer Laurence Binyon and was published in London in the Winnowing Fan; Poems of the Great War in 1914. The verse, which became the League Ode, was already used in association with commemoration services in Australia in 1921.
"They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old;
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them."
Each year after Anzac Day and Remembrance Day debate rises on the word 'condemn' or 'contemn'. The Ode used is the fourth stanza of the poem For the Fallen by Laurence Binyon and was written in the early days of World War One. By mid September 1914, less than seven weeks after the outbreak of war, the British Expeditionary Force in France had already suffered severe casualties. Long lists of the dead and wounded appeared in British newspapers. It was against this background that Binyon wrote For the Fallen. The poem was first published in The Times on 21 September 1914 using the word 'condemn'. Some people have suggested that the use of 'condemn' in The Times was a typographical error. However, The Winnowing Fan, published a month or two later and for which Binyon would have had galley proofs on which to mark amendments, 'condemn' was again used.
The British Society of Authors, executors of the Binyon estate, says the word is definitely 'condemn', while the British Museum, where Binyon worked, says its memorial stone also shows 'condemn'. Both expressed surprise when told there had been some debate about the matter in Australia. The condemn/contemn issue seems to be a distinctly Australian phenomenon. Inquiries with the British, Canadian and American Legions revealed that none had heard of the debate.
'Contemn' is not used in Binyon's published anthologies and the two volumes set, Collected Poems, regarded as the definitive version of Binyon's poems, uses 'condemn'. The Returned and Services League handbook shows 'condemn' and a representative of the Australian War Memorial said it always used 'condemn' in its ceremonies.
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25th April 2019, 08:57 AM #2
HWhat a great turn out of people at this mornings Dawn Service, many hundreds from very young to quite senior.
The Salvo Band was superb for the two hymns and National Anthems but the best was the Salvo buglers who played the Last Post, one as an echo. Only issue this morning was one of the young RAAF Cadets on the Catapult Party needed replacement, otherwise they did a top job.
It’s heartening to see do many get up early to attend the Dawn Service and Honour the Sacrifices of the folk who helped make this country the good south land Australia 🇦🇺
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Great turnout at our local service this morning also. In front of us was a baby just a few months old so I doubt that he/she will remember today but will be able to say in later years that he/she attended it. Ages ranged right through to us at the upper end and some older.
A highlight this year was a 12 hour vigil starting at 6 last night at the Cenotaph by the local youth groups.
Will be off to the mid-morning service also where my wife will be laying a wreath on behalf of the local Ladies Probus ClubTom
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