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    Thumbs down Goodbye Community TV

    G'day all. This affects all of us who enjoy the woodies program on Channel 31 (Melb).
    The Federal Minister for Telecommunications, Malcolm Turnbull, announced today that the Community TV network in Australia will be shut down within 12 months.
    Here's the ABC News item which includes a link to a group organising an email protest to Turnbull.

    I don't have to tell you that special interest programming like the woody show, will never get an airing on mainstream free-to-air TV.

    I recommend you take the time to read the news item and send in your protest ASAP.
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    Yeah, saw that this morning and thought "typical of this wet blanket mob".

    I didn't quite get why it needs to be shut down though. Bandwidth concerns? Govt funds? The latter would seem the most likely with this miserable bunch.
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    They probably what to sell teh bandwidth to their mates. And Community TV can be on the internet that is not really up to the required speeds. Cos we aren't getting the NBN.
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    Yebbut, they only have to wait another year or so for TEN to be out of business and they'll have more bandwidth available.

    Who wants a fourth commercial channel anyway???
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    Quote Originally Posted by tea lady View Post
    They probably what to sell teh bandwidth to their mates. And Community TV can be on the internet that is not really up to the required speeds. Cos we aren't getting the NBN.
    There's a lot we don't know about the NBN but what we do know is that it won't be as good as the FTTH objective that Labor started and therefore slower because of the use of the old copper wire network. The other thing we know is that the NBN takeup is still very poor. That being the case the obvious answer it seems is to drive potential customers to it. Currently, Community TV utilises excess capacity bandwidth. Turnbull assures us that the government has no plans to sell off the remaining bandwith therefore it will remain excess of current needs.
    The very obvious question then is, if its going to remain vacant why dump Community TV. Oh right, NBN needs customers...and lots of them. Never mind those who won't be able to access the internet (where Turnbull has suggested the Community TV channels broadcast from).
    As usual, its all a con and no doubt we'll all roll over and get our bellies tickled while they screw us over.
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    ..and another thing, it costs Australians 421% more to watch programs over the internet than watching them on television. That'll certainly boost NBN's revenues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shedhand View Post
    There's a lot we don't know about the NBN but what we do know is that it won't be as good as the FTTH objective that Labor started and therefore slower because of the use of the old copper wire network. The other thing we know is that the NBN takeup is still very poor. That being the case the obvious answer it seems is to drive potential customers to it. Currently, Community TV utilises excess capacity bandwidth. Turnbull assures us that the government has no plans to sell off the remaining bandwith therefore it will remain excess of current needs.
    The very obvious question then is, if its going to remain vacant why dump Community TV. Oh right, NBN needs customers...and lots of them. Never mind those who won't be able to access the internet (where Turnbull has suggested the Community TV channels broadcast from).
    As usual, its all a con and no doubt we'll all roll over and get our bellies tickled while they screw us over.
    Rant off...

    NBN in its current model is guaranteed to get all customers when it is fully implemented - it becomes the network wholesaler under the legislation - all retailers must use NBN "services" for "land lines". Fibre To The Node (FTTN) has provided some very promising results, and meet the majority of customers needs/expectations but is highly dependent upon how much copper is between you & the node. FTTH or fibre to the home is not all it is cracked up to be, very expensive to install, expensive to use and does not have the robustness in emergency events that the PSTN currently offers. So far most customers in NBN areas are opting for the lower cost plans so speed is not really a critical factor in their choice. Many customers are opting to go mobile only with the improvements in 3G & 4G technology and are scrapping land lines totally irrespective of copper / fibre.

    I would urge people to support Community TV and let their local pollies know they are not happy with the decision to scrap it.

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    We are on the Optus fibre cable which is direct from Optus to our home which gives us sufficient speed and capability for watching/downloading 4 TV shows simultaneous as well as internet browsing, so it doesn't worry us.

    Especially as the only show I ever watched from community TV was the woodworking show earlier this year. The rest of channel 31 is all rubbish IMO.


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    I don't really see where the problem is?

    I live in the country and cannot receive Ch31 or any other community TV, if these city centric organisations have to change their broadcast model to web casting they can reach a far wider audience, which would have to be a good thing wouldn't it?

    And if you read the latest report comparing the previous govt's model with the current one you will see that you don't need a zillion gigabytes of bandwith to receive HDTV, but why miss an opportunity to display ones' political leanings in favour of facts?

    I currently have NBN Wireless Broadband with a max speed of 25mbps (about ADSL2-which I can't get) and it is a very good service, but perhaps not good enough for the city-centric people?

    I would recommend you read the latest NBN report and get some facts.

    http://www.documentcloud.org/documen...broadband.html

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    Maybe Turnbull should start watching TV and see whats on the major channels then sit back and watch C31 and learn something about Australia. Does that mean NTV will go thats a community based station??

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    As far as I understand (and that's limited, given that the huge increase in reality and talent quest programs killed TV watching as an activity for me back in the early 2000's), Channel 31 only broadcasts to the Melbourne area anyway, so the loss of content is irrelevant to 80% of the country - why wouldn't a YouTube channel be a better option?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Splinter View Post
    Channel 31 only broadcasts to the Melbourne area anyway, so the loss of content is irrelevant to 80% of the country - why wouldn't a YouTube channel be a better option?

    Although Channel 31 broadcast to the central part of Melbourne it is part of a loose network of free-to-air community television stations that broadcast in the major Australian capital cities.

    But their programming is so weird that it's still irrelevant to 80 % of the country and should be on YouTube channels.

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    ...good to see Canberra is ignored even by community stations!!!

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