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17th December 2008, 09:19 PM #16
i dont i pay for it
anyone got some for sale?
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18th December 2008, 11:26 AM #17Jet Black Rep
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Remember this is an industrial unit designed to work constantly for years and years without fail or hesitaion.. Very hardy and well built unit that can and will take a beating
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18th December 2008, 11:39 AM #18
I don't know why it is called a Cleaning Station? Looks more like a Dust Transfer Station to me.
It just transfers dust from one place to the general atmosphere, so it is easier to breathe in?
I would suggest that prevention is better than cure, ie treat the problem at the source and don't get covered in dust in the first place by having a decent dust extraction system set up, mine cost considerably less than what this unit costs.
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18th December 2008, 11:41 AM #19
With the current price of Asian wet and dry type vacuum cleaners, one could buy quite a few of them and still be in front.
With all due respect, I submit you are backing the wrong horse in the wrong race. Employees of a large concern may well embrace your product, but small shop operators and DIY woodworkers are too proud of the dust they make to want to blow it all off..
I know you believe you understand what you think I wrote, but I'm not sure you realize that what you just read is not what I meant.
Regards, Woodwould.
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18th December 2008, 11:42 AM #20I would suggest that prevention is better than cure, ie treat the problem at the source and don't get covered in dust in the first place"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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18th December 2008, 12:03 PM #21
Most things are cheaper to make yourself; such as a plane, chisel, saw and just about every other tool in the shop.
But IF you were to make one of these, I'd assume you would use a NEW motor, new hoses, new electronics etc? You will provide a warranty with it and ensure it has a decent mean time between failure plus be certified to meet Australian design specifications and all its failure modes would be to a safe condition. I guess there will also be a manual and, of course, it will be housed in a professionally built and protectively finished mobile container. That's pretty good for under $200, and that is without any labour cost factored in.
A manufacturer needs to cover things like profit, staff wages, R&D return, plant and machinery investment, development loans, packaging, warehousing, bad debt etc. I suspect they are at the Festool end of the tool spectrum, not the Ozito end.
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18th December 2008, 07:47 PM #22
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18th December 2008, 07:55 PM #23A manufacturer needs to cover things like profit, staff wages, R&D return, plant and machinery investment, development loans, packaging, warehousing, bad debt etc
$1850 - $500 = $1350
labor cost in making one would be minimal as machinery dose everything now or an army of Chinese people.
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18th December 2008, 08:29 PM #24
There is your labour cost to pay for your time in setting this all up. Then someone has to pay the Chinese middleman, who pays the factory. The costs rapidly add up. I am not saying you can't do it cheaper than their price, particularly if you don't include your labour costs, but it cannot be done for under $200 as stated. You need to borrow the money to make sufficient quantity to keep the cost down, then sell them quickly to minimise warehousing and interest costs. That means marketing - more costs. I'd be surprised if you could make the equivalent product for under $1500 in a moderate sized batch.
Most woodies I know carry the dust with pride anyway, you only have to look at 's hat to see that .
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18th December 2008, 09:03 PM #25
i simply said i could make one for less than $200 not make and sell them for $200
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19th December 2008, 08:09 AM #26Retired
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Most woodies I know carry the dust with pride anyway, you only have to look at 's hat to see that
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19th December 2008, 11:17 AM #27Jet Black Rep
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you can make anything cheap yourself if you REALLY want to...
I can make a one person hovercraft for under $200 lol.. how long it lasts is another matter
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19th December 2008, 11:18 AM #28I can make a one person hovercraft for under $200"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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19th December 2008, 02:34 PM #29Jet Black Rep
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actually I do... my past job was as a hovercraft/mechanical designer. lol
Yes this is a product designed for the larger companies more then back yard hobbist... thus why I said I posted here hoping that some of the members worked in bigger factorys..
I'm just advertising this where ever I can that is all. I've sold gear from adverting in the weirdest places so you would be surprised..
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20th December 2008, 05:28 PM #30GOLD MEMBER
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There was something mentioned earlier or in another thread that your blower was to address safety regulations in Australia prohibiting or preventing the use of compressed air nozzles for personal cleaning. Is that an outright ban on the practice or is it regulating the maximum pressure allowed for blowing the dust off a worker?
Here Worksafe BC allows compressed air along the following lines.
"Compressed air may be used in specially designated areas for blowing
dusts or other substances from clothing being worn by workers,
provided that
(a) the substances have an exposure limit greater than 1.0 mg/m3, as established by section 5.48,
(b) appropriate respiratory and eye protection is worn, and
(c) the compressed air supply pressure is limited to a pressure of 70
kPa gauge (10 psig), or safety nozzles which have the same
pressure limiting effect are used."
How do our regulations in BC compare with yours?
I realize your machine is meant for industrial applications, possibly agricultural too, where plumbing in compressed air may not be practical or desirable, or needs to be portable. It is outside the range or virtually all the people frequenting this kind of forum, hobby, or employed in a factory. Even the company I work for here with over a dozen metal polishers would balk at the price unless facing a larger fine by Worksafe BC. But the fact that such a blower exists and is needed, should serve as a wake up call for these members to seek out a low pressure blowgun for their air systems in their shops! Okay....Sheds.
Who is going to be the first to suggest using their wives hair drier to dust off with???
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