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  1. #91
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    Niki,

    When cutting strips for edgebanding, I rip 12mm strips, one after the other. When you've cut most of the board, you're left with say a last strip of maybe 30mm or less. And then 15mm or less. Short of adjusting a featherboard one cut after the other, you must apply side pressure as you feed. Particularly if ripping alone. Burn marks aside, it's hard (for me at least) to do this well without getting within close proximity to the blade. Not too close, but close enough to worry.

    If you have a better method, take a video and post it! I've seen some sacrificial push sticks used, but without a riving knife, you still need side pressure for decent cuts.

    Again, I rip strips frequently, so setting up featherboards etc is a pain.

    Jeff

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    Hi Jeff

    Well, if "time is money" for you, I agree with you that my method is slower.
    I'm using a sled and "feather rollers" that I reset after each cut like this one
    Attachment 66104

    Or you can make a "feather roller" like this one that you don't have to reset after every cut...
    Attachment 66103

    Or as I made lately, a wooden one
    Attachment 66102

    Best regards
    niki

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    Niki, very impressive!

    Food for thought. A nice set up for when I get my new saw. I do like the infeed and outfeed table supports as well.

    thanks Jeff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruddigar View Post
    Hi Lig,

    Gimmick, eh?

    The same way that airbags in vehicles are gimmicks?

    This technology is the final safety net in a table saw accident. Yes - it is unique and provides and excellent selling point for people like me. BUT! There are many people (businesses included) that would appreciate this sort of "insurance" in their workshop.

    ......

    OK - it has the safety feature. Over 9000 SawStops have been sold so far, and the SawStop company have documented evidence of over 300 'finger saves'. This is a fair percentage, but it still means that most users haven't had the need to utilise the brake system.

    ................

    As soon as the panel saw becomes available, I will let you know.
    According to this 300 finger saves with 9000 SawStops = 1 finger save per 30 SawStops. Given that this is a relatively new product, this says that on average 1 in 30 operators of saws equipped with SawStop would have injured or lost all or part of a finger. I think these figures seem a tad high. Just imagine, in that same time period how many injuries there must have been around the world as probably 99.9% of all saws do not have SawStops.

    Does anybody have statistics on table saw injuries that we can compare this with?

    Personaly, I don't like one in 30 odds, I'll stick to my old Beaver saw.

    Cheers

    Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsquire View Post
    I think these figures seem a tad high. Just imagine, in that same time period how many injuries there must have been around the world as probably 99.9% of all saws do not have SawStops.
    Fully concur with your reasoning.

    If you add up all the TS without this alledged wonderful feature (including contractor saws, cabinet saws, and Triton workcentre like saws) and divide that by 30 to get the number of finger injuries than these kind of saws would be banned by all governments as there would not be enough Emergemcy departments in the hospitals to cope.

    These claims sound pure advertising drivel to me.

    Peter.

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    You do have to look for the confounding factors with any statistics though. The people who buy sawstops are probably at higher risk to start with such as schools tafe equivalents etc.

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    Quite interesting to see that SawStop is such a hot topic everywhere.
    I just received mine Monday.
    Feel free to ask any questions. So far it's confirmed to me that I made the right decision in buying it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bri View Post
    Quite interesting to see that SawStop is such a hot topic everywhere.
    I just received mine Monday.
    Feel free to ask any questions. So far it's confirmed to me that I made the right decision in buying it.

    Why, did you stick your finger in it already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toolin Around View Post
    Why, did you stick your finger in it already?
    See any blood?

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    Good on you Bri, hopefully you won't lose a finger in the BS, jointer or thicknesser

    Nah, seriously, nice one.

    Be interested in hearing what you think after using it for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bri View Post
    Quite interesting to see that SawStop is such a hot topic everywhere.
    I just received mine Monday.
    Feel free to ask any questions. So far it's confirmed to me that I made the right decision in buying it.
    Lucky bugger


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    Quote Originally Posted by Groggy View Post
    Good on you Bri, hopefully you won't lose a finger in the BS, jointer or thicknesser

    Nah, seriously, nice one.

    Be interested in hearing what you think after using it for a while.
    Actually, I believe they are working on a brake for the bandsaw. I can't see myself getting one though. Chances of getting injured from a bandsaw compared to TS I'd guess must be quite lower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bri View Post
    Actually, I believe they are working on a brake for the bandsaw. I can't see myself getting one though. Chances of getting injured from a bandsaw compared to TS I'd guess must be quite lower.
    Somebody should have told our butcher that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Shed View Post
    Somebody should have told our butcher that
    Yeah, but a SawStop brake is never going to work on a butcher's bandsaw is it! (Think about it)

    In any event, if you've watched a butcher operate a bandsaw you would have to say that it would only be a matter of time. In their defense, they are usually operating the machine with the customer waiting and are therefore under time pressure. That's how most accidents with power tools occur.

    A tablesaw is a far more dangerous tool than any bandsaw that you and I are likely to use. Full stop.

    As for jointers, they don't need to be dangerous either. I cannot see how you could injure yourself with a properly adjusted Euro style guard installed. The old style "guard" is not really a guard. It's a self-replacing temporary cover, at best!

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    Bri,
    welcome, what's all the white stuff ouside your window? Did you spray paint your lawn white?

    Mick
    "If you need a machine today and don't buy it,

    tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."

    - Henry Ford 1938

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