Thread: Sydney-Hunter-Blue Mntns...... Who wants timber from MAPLEMAN brought down?

Brett, I am interested in participating and have pm'ed Mapleman to see what is available. I live in Armidale on weekends, work in Moree during the week so if Bushmiller is agreeable I would collect from Tamworth, many thanks Ross

Originally Posted by wattycoo

Brett, I am interested in participating and have pm'ed Mapleman to see what is available. I live in Armidale on weekends, work in Moree during the week so if Bushmiller is agreeable I would collect from Tamworth, many thanks Ross

Paul could probably off load your stuff to Chambezio (who is closer to Moonbi than Tamworth as I recall).

Brett, either would be fine. I note you are continuing to do your bit in encouraging domestic harmony with my incredibly tolerant chancellor of the exchequer

Originally Posted by FenceFurniture

APPROVED BY ADMIN

An opportunity has arisen where we can get a couple of pallets (1 Tonne max) of timber from Mapleman brought down. Anyone who has been watching the extraordinary Mango Stump thread could be mightily interested in this, as well as any of the other species that MM has (Blackwood, Q.Maple et al).

The story is this: Bushmiller (Paul) has very generously offered to bring a load down to the Hunter Valley just before Easter, as he is finally going down there to knock over that Spotted Gum for his workbench build. He has a flat bed 1 Tonner that two pallets can be loaded on to.

LOGISTICS:

• Mapleman will load the pallets, and get them to E-go transport depot on the Sunshine Coast (Kunda Park)
• O'nite to Toowoomba depot for not much cost, and Paul will pu from there on March 22nd
• A day or two later Paul will drive down to the Hunter, and will want to offload to someone who has the capabilities of unloading and very short term storage.
• We have to work out the back end between us all, on how to get the timber from there to the end users, but I should think that this is very achievable
• Singleton would be an excellent place for Paul to drop off the timber. Tooooonnnnyyyy..........are you ears burning?
• We will all contribute a little something (pro-rata) to cover Paul's increased fuel costs, and also the transport for E-go

PURCHASES:

• You negotiate whatever it is that you want directly with Mapleman
• Maximum board length 1100mm (to fit on the pallet)
• First in best dressed to fill the load

PAYMENTS:
Payments will have to come to me so that I can split them up amongst MM, BM and E-go


TIMING:
This will be quite critical, as we have to allow for the various activities to take place, and the critical path is as follows:

• Negotiating your purchase with MM
• Determining the final load, and therefore cost of transport
• Get the payment to me No later than 15th March, because we need to allow some take-up time after this date
• Pallets from MM to Kunda Park probably 18/19th March, but may have to be earlier (MM will advise)
• Delivery to Toowoomba probably 19/20th March
• Pick up from Toowoomba 22nd March (firm date)
• Drop off in the Hunter 24/25th March...BM can advise

There are probably a couple of other considerations, but the main one is
GET YOUR SKATES ON!

Do your negotiations with MM in private (or in this thread if you wish), but you will have to keep the thread up to date with what you are doing so that I know how it's all panning out, and can co-ordinate it all.

We have all shown in the past how well we can co-operate on such things, so this could be quite a fun run.

Cheers
Brett


EDIT: It would not be hard to organise a delivery to other parts of Oz. E-go Transport have pretty good rates, so if a few people from one area wanted to sort something out then it would work out pretty well for freight I reckon.

Cava - E-go can take bigger packages I'm sure.

E-Go Transport Website
If you click Depot to Depot, and use Kunda Park as the initiating depot you'll see what I mean about the rates and depot locations

I have just clicked onto the website,and sorted a quote fom kunda park to toowoomba for a pallet weighing700kg,around a 1 metre square...$440 plus ...as well as $150 for truck to cart from my place to kunda park,as well as paying Bushmiller for his services...sorry folks,if i had known this,i would not have given the green light to proceed ...things are looking a little messy,perhaps o.k in theory,but defeats that purchase of landing the timber at a reasonable price..at the end of the day,the costs have to be picked up by the punters,which,wont be happening.The cost of getting a sawn cube(palletised),around 700kg,to Sydney,is around $200-$300,,,and leaving from the farm gate would add another $100-$150...probably work out at half the cost..sorry again folks..i was under the impression E-Go were cheap...cheap they are not..dearer to land pallet in Toowoomba, with this mob,than it is to send to Sydney with a regular transport mob...oh dear...and without triple handling etc etc..

Thanks for trying MM, BM, FF, sounds like this won't be proceeding - nothing ventured nothing gained

I'm getting a result of $239 for 700kg 110x110x100 cm, which is more than I thought, but still less than the result you are getting Chris. But when I put in Kunda Park to Sydney I get $211, so it's definitely a bit weird. Perhaps a phone may be needed to overide the website.

Other than that, it may not be lost yet- I just don't give in too easily. Standby.

Originally Posted by MAPLEMAN

I have just clicked onto the website,and sorted a quote fom kunda park to toowoomba for a pallet weighing700kg,around a 1 metre square...$440 plus ...as well as $150 for truck to cart from my place to kunda park,as well as paying Bushmiller for his services...sorry folks,if i had known this,i would not have given the green light to proceed ...things are looking a little messy,perhaps o.k in theory,but defeats that purchase of landing the timber at a reasonable price..at the end of the day,the costs have to be picked up by the punters,which,wont be happening.The cost of getting a sawn cube(palletised),around 700kg,to Sydney,is around $200-$300,,,and leaving from the farm gate would add another $100-$150...probably work out at half the cost..sorry again folks..i was under the impression E-Go were cheap...cheap they are not..dearer to land pallet in Toowoomba, with this mob,than it is to send to Sydney with a regular transport mob...oh dear...and without triple handling etc etc..

Originally Posted by FenceFurniture

I'm getting a result of $239 for 700kg 110x110x100 cm, which is more than I thought, but still less than the result you are getting Chris. But when I put in Kunda Park to Sydney I get $211, so it's definitely a bit weird. Perhaps a phone may be needed to overide the website.

Other than that, it may not be lost yet- I just don't give in too easily. Standby.

WARNING, my day job is interjecting again

I'm not surprised by the differential in costs that you are seeing.

If you're moving stuff between Sydney and Brisvegas or between Sydney and "Bleak City" a small quantity will go onto a 45 or 70 tonne truck on a "space available" basis -- i.e. included with another bigger load that doesn't fill the truck, either in terms of volume or mass. Consequently the transport rate is very low
But as soon as you get away from the Capital City to Capital City routes (and unfortunately, Toomwoomba is not on one of those routes) the your little load starts to become the reason for the truck moving at all. If you are in luck it will go on the back of a semi where your little 1 tonne load might represent 10-20% of the total payload, if you're unlucky, your load will be on the back of a rigid truck where your load represents 50-60% of the payload.

end of interjection


This whole idfea of sending a pallet or two of special wood to Sydney remains a great idea.
Based on the freight rates, sending the wood directly to Sydney for collection on a 1 tonne trailer looks to be the go

It's all good, and has in fact yielded an even better result (which is always the goal in a recovery situation).

Paul has very, very kindly offered to go direct to Mapleman and load the timber straight onto his flat-top. This brings into play longer pieces of timber, up to 2400mm, and you will have to talk to MM about what he has available in the longer lengths (more restricted range).

Paul will be loading the timber on Friday 22nd March, returning to Millmerran, and then heading off to Tamworth on Tuesday 26th (or it may be the day before, I can't quite remember).

So, how's that for a recovery eh?

THANK YOU PAUL!! You're a champ! The tremendous spirit of this forum has never been more evident.

Btw, that is kinda what I meant by "Standby" - I just had this feeling that knowing Paul as I do, he would come to the rescue after he read this morning's posts.

Anybody looking for longer pieces can now ask about availability from MM.

Originally Posted by ian

This whole idfea of sending a pallet or two of special wood to Sydney remains a great idea.
Based on the freight rates, sending the wood directly to Sydney for collection on a 1 tonne trailer looks to be the go

Couldn't agree more Ian, and I hope the idea catches on. I'm sure the word will get around the forum (particularly when people start to see the finished results from some of this really pretty timber), and we could start to see pallets being shot off to Melbourne etc. Just a matter of thinking it through, really. In a town the size of Sydney you'd have to think that a pallet a month would not be at all out of the question.

Nice one Paul...good effort that...

Wow! Thank you Bushmiller, Ross

Well done Brett [FF], that's a top result with a HUGE THANK YOU to Paul [bushman].
While I've only asked for a very small amount of timber, we need to ensure Paul is compensated for the going the extra miles.
Cheers, crowie

Yes crowie, that's all part of the deal.

Good job, Bushy !