Thread: Photo editing

Depends what you mean by a fortune. Photoshop Elements has the option of specifying the image size in cm or inches as well as pixel and percentage.

Hello again Soren.
I use paint shop pro, have done so for years. You can get a free download one month trial from Corel.com. Plenty of tutorials on this software on the web. So if hooked you would most probably buy.

If you want a freebie some people like to use Gimp, havent used it myself but it would surely have that resize option.

http://www.gimp.org/

Originally Posted by jow104

Hello again Soren.
I use paint shop pro, have done so for years. You can get a free download one month trial from Corel.com. Plenty of tutorials on this software on the web. So if hooked you would most probably buy.

If you want a freebie some people like to use Gimp, havent used it myself but it would surely have that resize option.

http://www.gimp.org/

Gimp may do but you would be surprised at how many don't. I have 5 photo editing programs and only photoshop had the resize to a specific size. It doesn't matter generally as on most programs you can set the picture size when printing them. (I am surprised that the kiosk apparently doesn't have this function)

paint shop pro wil create any size requested.

Another good option is Paint.Net

If you ask at the photo kiosk what the pixels required to get borderless prints, you should be able to crop and save to those dimensions in just about any photo editor.

The black borders will be there because your photo is not quite the correct ratio of width to height, and the printing software is defaulting to a mode where it 'best fits' your photo to the paper without losing any of the image. Some software allows you to change this default so that the image fills the paper (and loses some of the picture that 'spills over'), so it's worth asking at the shop about that too.

woodbe.

If portraiture isnt involved you can resize in most programs ignoring the correct ratio. (maintain ratio option). More of an artist eye involved and you can make a mini look like a stretch limo.

G'day All.

I shoot RAW format and modify and convert in Photoshop CS3 to JPG.

Croping and printing is then done with Picasa 2.

It isn't that simple. Even if the program lets you specify inches or cm, you will get borders if your original picture is not a 6X4 multiple. If you don't maintain the aspect ratio, you can get the right size, but the picture will be distorted. If you want exactly 6x4, with a full frame, no borders, no distortion, and no cropping--well, you can't get there from here.

You have to do some cropping or have a distorted picture, even in photoshop Cs3 you need to crop ,
I also use the programe that came with the cannon MP 800 printer that will auto crop to fit 6 x 4 but this just removes excess evenly of both sides ie top and bottom or left and right and may take out areas you don't want removed so I usually crop in photoshop and get it close to 6 x 4 then allow the printer to do the final small adjustment's

Originally Posted by Honorary Bloke

It isn't that simple. Even if the program lets you specify inches or cm, you will get borders if your original picture is not a 6X4 multiple. If you don't maintain the aspect ratio, you can get the right size, but the picture will be distorted. If you want exactly 6x4, with a full frame, no borders, no distortion, and no cropping--well, you can't get there from here.

Well, yes you can, actually. All you need is to look at the pixel dimensions of your crop before you commit to it. Check it in the calculator. Most editors display the dimensions as you crop, but even if they don't a trial and error approach will work. Some editors (I've seen it in Lightroom) allow you to set a crop aspect ratio, and the crop tool snaps to that automatically as you use it.

woodbe.

Originally Posted by woodbe

Well, yes you can, actually..

Well, no you can't, actually. So we'll agree to disagree.

It is not just a featue of the digital age. 35mm negatives will not give an exact 6x4 or 10x8. The sixes for pictures was based on the older large format cameras I think. Then someone went modern and started using movie stock in small format cameras.

Woodbe,
HB is right in what he says - if you bother to read his post. He says, in part that you cannot get there without cropping or distortion - and you can't.
You cannot alter the aspect ratio of the the picture without either distorting it or cropping it. End of story!!

However what you say about setting the aspect ratio of the cropping is correct and will give the desired result.

Soren, resizing will not produce the desired result unless your original aspect ratio is the same as your desired final result. To do what you want you must use the cropping tool set, as Woodbe says, to the desired aspect ratio.

I've just checked my Canon Power Shot A710 and it provides 2 options - 4 x 3 (1.3333:1) or widescreen 16 x 9 ( 1.7777:1 ).
The standard 6 x 4 has an aspect ration of 1.5:1 and the 10 x 8 is 1.25:1 To print in either format without borders or distortion I have to crop. I suspect this is the case with most digital cameras.

Regards

Ian

Originally Posted by Honorary Bloke

Well, no you can't, actually. So we'll agree to disagree.

Well, you can agree to disagree if you like, but I'm being disagreeable today

This is the essence of the original question:

Every previous attempt of cropping and trying to manipulate the pixels / % to get close, still leaves me with either an additional (unwanted) cropping or black borders on 2 edges, or worse, all four edges.
Hope someone can help

Whilst it may be interesting to debate the semantics, it doesn't help Soren's problem. He has already said that he has had trouble getting things sorted, and he has been cropping the image. He hasn't said that he absolutely must fit all of the original picture on the print, he has said that he wants it to print without "additional (unwanted) cropping or black borders"

If I have misinterpreted what Soren has said, ok. happy to be corrected, but I don't think so... Just to be specific on that, what I think he is saying (in my words) is:

"show me how to fix my images so that when I take my memory card to the photolab, they will print as expected without extra cropping or borders"

Of course you are right about the original format not being the same, and that it won't go onto a different format without cropping, bordering, or distortion.

Sorry to disagree, I'm trying to solve the original posters question. Maybe Soren can jump in here and advise us which question he wants answered?

woodbe.