Thread: The 80's Are Better Than Today

Originally Posted by ss_11000

any thoughts????

cheers

Lots but too many to right write now
Master Of Puppets! Mate, you ARE into the good stuff! GO STIRLO!!!
For starters, as far as good early stuff for bands, listen/look at ;
Motorhead
Iron Maiden
Faith No More
AC/DC (Bon Scott's stuff)
Pearl Jam
INXS
R.E.M
Just to name a few

Tend to agree, music today sucks - must be an age thing. I actually prefer music of the 70's and 80's. Bands and artists like:
Deep Purple
Led Zeppelin
Black Sabbath
Status Quo
Dire Straits
Supertramp
Gary Moore
Alan Parsons Project
Slade
Lindisfarne
Nilsson
Harry Chapin
Eric Clapton
Eurythmics
Simply Red
Plus lots more I can't think of at the moment.

A lot of bands and artists that are around a long time have difficulty in maintaining their "direction". I agree in a lot of cases their early stuff is their best. I prefer to judge an act on the way they perform live. Deep Purple is a case in point. I don't particularly like their latest couple of albums but their early stuff and their live performances are sensational. I thought the band would die when Ritchie Blacmore left but Steve Morse is the best guitarist I have ever seen or heard.

Let the arguments begin

Queen

I remember listening to bands like KISS as a kid and thinking that was the heaviest music could possibly be... now they sound like balads. I still like my 80's hair (cock) rock though...

Skid Row
Def Leppard
Bon Jovi
Poison
Van Halen
Whitesnake
Warrant...

I have an 80's mix that I use for circuits sometimes and although not as heavy and driving as some of my doof doof stuff, people love it. I play it for groups where the oldest in the class would be 20 and they still sing along to Giorgio Moroder.

Corbs

Saw an interview with John Lord from Deep Purple the other day. His suggestion is that, in the 60's,70's and 80's, the record companies were more entrepeneurial and got heavily involved with the band's success. Also, there were less rules and the bands made it up as they went along.
Now its just plastic stuff aimed at a demographic deduced from highly specialised marketing ananlysis. (my opinion).

Sterlo, the reason why you think music is no good today is because you are listening to the same old boring R & R that was originally produced in the 70 early 80's but is now stale.

In the late 80's music evolved with the onset of electronics - first with house followed by techno, rap, acid jazz, electro funk, ambiance, trance etc etc.

Modern music is sooooo much better than 3 bar rock & roll...you just have to find the groove thats right for you, be adventurous and broaden your musical pallet.

EDIT I just realised the evolution of electronic music happened earlier - I'm currently listening to "My Life in the Bush Of Ghosts" Eno & Byrne which was made in 1979. A fantastic album Infact Eno was doing electronic in the early 70's - music for airports - another green world etc do a google.

Originally Posted by LGS

Saw an interview with John Lord from Deep Purple the other day. His suggestion is that, in the 60's,70's and 80's, the record companies were more entrepeneurial and got heavily involved with the band's success. Also, there were less rules and the bands made it up as they went along.
Now its just plastic stuff aimed at a demographic deduced from highly specialised marketing ananlysis. (my opinion).

Right in every aspect

Forget the 80's Stirlo your young whats it going to be tomorrow or 10 years from now.

I love many types of music mostly 50's through to 80's, I asked a mate who works in the industry where is it heading? His reply "The big 4 are killing it" This is for the consumer market.

The pub and local content is still full on its just harder for us to know about it, young fellows like you and FC should be introducing us oldies to some new stuff.

Perhaps record company execs used to be muso's. Too many thoughts to form a cogent argument here.
I think Ligs got it right, they are trying to create musicians under an archetype, either Britney of that other idiot from the boy band. Then they create music with no hooks, no melody then complain that sales are down due to people downloading. Listen to a new "song" by one of those and try and hum along with it.
Stirlo, it's only the really great bands that consistently improve. (With the exception of the Stones)
Wendy, Queen are the champions, my friend.

Originally Posted by Bleedin Thumb

In the late 80's music evolved with the onset of electronics - first with house followed by techno, rap, acid jazz, electro funk, ambiance, trance etc etc

Techno is not musical, rap is not musical but I have heard some music that could be called acid jazz.
Music still needs to be musical, whether it be made by a piano, trumpet, violin, guitar, moog synthesiser or anything else. (ie rhythmic, melodic)

There has been good music and absolute cr@p music all along, and there continues to be. To say one era has a monopoly on better or best is pathetic. You sound like your own parents when you turned up AC/DC or Led Zep back in '75!! Move on, open your ears!!
Some of the stuff I listened to in the 70's and 80's which I thought of then as THE BEST (some of it mentioned here already) has a definite use-by date, plain embarrasing even. One or two tracks ocassionally OK, but couldn't sit through a whole album, and certainly can't listen to any radio station that hypes up about "music from the 70's, 80's and today".
Forget about commercial Top 100, its soft cock garbage, R&B damsels warbling endlessly! Triple J is a better window IMO... yes they do go through phases of shyte, but some great new stuff keeps popping up. The Herd, the Waifs, Black Keys, JSBX off the top of my head.


EDIT: To stirlo's other point about band's earlier work being their best (regardless of if they started in the 70's or 80's I assume) I tend to agree in many cases -Midnight Oil for instance- and it may be because of their 'freshnesh', for themselves as much as the listener. They have their first recording contract after maybe years of working the circuit, so they are pumped and enthusiastic about recognition. Later it may become bit ho-hum, or even worse, producing records just to meet contractual obligations. For the listener, a new band with a new sound to savour, and later output may lack that vigour because you've heard it before.


Cheers

Originally Posted by Andy Mac

Move on, open your ears!!
Some of the stuff I listened to in the 70's and 80's which I thought of then as THE BEST (some of it mentioned here already) has a definite use-by date, plain embarrasing even.

Couldnt agree more. 80`s music is fun for a short burst of retro listening, but whats around now is sensational. Stop listening to JJJ and MMM and visit a quality boutique music store and ask to listen to some good new stuff. Those who work there know whats good and will recomend something very tastey to take home.

In Melbourne i like Readings - a sample of what they have http://www.readings.com.au/music

Originally Posted by Gingermick

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I think Ligs got it right,

Mick. To agnowledge my post 2 hours before i posted it, shows how remarkable your psychic abilities are

Yeah when they come up with the name for RAP music they forgot the C at the start

Originally Posted by ss_11000

• Metallica: master of puppets, ride the lightning, and justice for all, kill em all, black album - all AWESOME albums and all before 1992 .... load, garage inc. st anger etc their later albums are no where near as goodany thoughts????

Garage Inc is actually a re-release of the Garage Days ep which was one of the earliest releases ..... and then re-released back in 1987. The main tracks of interest are on disk 2 .... Helpless, The small hours, The wait and Crash Course In Brain Surgery. Mostly covers of bands that they grew up with and were a strong influence.

If you go to ..... http://www.livemetallica.com/ and visit the Vault they offer a number of older live shows for download ..... Free Sound quality isn't always the best but some of the shows are very raw and fresh.

Originally Posted by Andy Mac

Some of the stuff I listened to in the 70's and 80's which I thought of then as THE BEST (some of it mentioned here already) has a definite use-by date, plain embarrasing even.
Cheers

How true , I recently (re) bought a turntable as I wanted to digitally record all my old vinyl records.

It didn't take long to realise that my music tastes had changed and I had no desire to go back and listen to that stuff unless i was in some sort of nostalgic mood - either way it didn't justify the effort of the recording process.

as far as rap being .c.rap - well I'm not a big fan, though some of it is OK ...but like it or not it has permeated lots of other musical genres so get used to it or go back to listening to....."the greatest hits of the 70's, 80's and 90's"