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    My apologies Derek I was merely (or is it meekly) trying to point out your system has no disadvantages. It is rather special!! Sometimes it all just gets too technical!!

    Bazzy
    It's all very technical!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Dingo View Post
    Good one Derek! See your still experimenting with different sharpening methods ol son!

    Sorry couldnt be there but well things got pretty hectic here today... would have been good to meet up with Mike... and yourself of course! Oh an the missus! and the dogs!!... sigh ah well next time maybe!

    Good on you Mike for settin up the school thing great stuff
    That would have been good, seein you there as well. You goin to the woodshow on the Saturday?

    Otherwise you might have to come and impart some wisdom on the kids, they are always appreciative of chaps in funny hats

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    On the Saturday? not sure Mike hope so... keep your eye out for the hat an give it a whack as it wanders by!

    of course you know Im gonna let my 6ft 6in 210lb boxer/wrestler son in law wear it that day dontcha!!

    No seriously mate Im not altogether sure... I am planning on going this year just decided Id better to see if its improved and whats new and to meet up with a few woodboobs an woodnuts

    Now on the other hand... lettin me loose among a bunch of hoons would lead to some OUTSTANDING times!! they would never get over it Im quite sure as for the teach well mate if you aint mad as a cut snake before you sure as hell will be after!!! but it would be interesting

    Cheers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by derekcohen View Post
    The 10 Cent Sharpening System


    I had a visitor today in the form of Mike (Burnsy), a primary school teacher, who was setting up a woodworking program for his kids at school. What is exemplary, he is doing this on his own initiative and out of his own pocket. Several Perth members of the Ubeaut woodworking forum had donated planes. When I heard of Mike’s wonderful effort I felt that the least I could do would be to hone the blades, tune the planes and ready them for use.

    Derek
    Maybe we could see some of the finished work these kids are doing when completed or in stages Derek.

    I am surprised though that primary school kids are even allowed near the planes regardings OH&S Workcover laws etc and other restrictions. I think its excellent the whole project.

    Ray

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    build the guide according to Brent's specifications - whatever they are
    He makes 4:

    Large Jig - 1-3/4" tall with a 1/8" back
    Medium Jig - 1-1/2" tall with a 1/8" back
    Small Jig - 1-1/4" tall with a 1/8" back
    Tiny Jig - 1" tall with a 1/8" back

    The jig sizes are for different lengths of blade. Shorter jigs used with longer blades means you lose surface area on the sandpaper, hence the larger jigs for longer blades.

    His extension tables for each jig size list different blade setting lengths for different thickness blades but I think that is probably getting a bit fussy.
    "I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelinround View Post
    Maybe we could see some of the finished work these kids are doing when completed or in stages
    Here is the link Ray, don't expect to see any fine woodworking but there are lots of smiles .

    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f152/hand-planes-52113

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burnsy View Post
    Here is the link Ray, don't expect to see any fine woodworking but there are lots of smiles .

    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f152/hand-planes-52113

    Checked it Burnsy well done

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    Was explaining what is happening to swmbo (peering over my shoulder readig post), she was like myself amazed that the kids are even allowed near the tools. Students in NSW high schools aren't allowed to use tools until 16.

    She has a freind who used to teach craft etc at a Catholic school no use of anything sharp not even a saftey pin, to do French Knittig the post had to be timber and the kids had to use their fingers fo everything else. Sewing well it went.
    The female teacher was brought up on charges of abuse for sticking a child with a saftey pin, she quit after 9 months of investigations, harrasment etc.

    Great work swmbo woud like to know what the girls are doing

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    Just a comment:

    It depends on the school, I would imagine.

    My son is at a Catholic High School in northern Sydney, and has been doing WW since age 12. Includes tenon saw, coping saw, chisel, plane. Earlier this year, qualified for his bandsaw "licence". He is now 14, and in year 9 and doing WW as an elective.

    My Daughter, at a state selective school, also did WW in yr 7 & 8, and was certainly using common hand tools. They had machine work done by the teacher though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alastair View Post
    Just a comment:

    It depends on the school, I would imagine.

    My son is at a Catholic High School in northern Sydney, and has been doing WW since age 12. Includes tenon saw, coping saw, chisel, plane. Earlier this year, qualified for his bandsaw "licence". He is now 14, and in year 9 and doing WW as an elective.

    My Daughter, at a state selective school, also did WW in yr 7 & 8, and was certainly using common hand tools. They had machine work done by the teacher though.

    regards
    Strange considering it's supposed to be acros the board in NSW

    Yep Teachers have to use the dangerous equipment in case of injury.
    Like when one of my kids while in class, teacher ordered all to stop and watch the safe way of using the bandsaw. When explaining to them never to be distracted he turned and spoke as he cut off two fingers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelinround View Post
    Great work swmbo woud like to know what the girls are doing
    There doing woodwork! Well two are, there will be more next term . Thanks for the support. As far as what they can and can't do it really is a duty of care issue. I would not let them near chisels or stanley knives, however with supervision saws and hand planes are pretty harmless, they can do more damage to themselves falling over on some glass on the way home. Unfortunately this is not the way everyone sees it and as always the noisey minority spoil it for the silent majority.

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    Good thread hijacked.
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    Yeah, agree with Cliff.

    Valid discussion in the hijack, but any further please start a new thread.

    Further posts in this thread on topic please.


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